Thou shalt not…smoke, because we say so

 

The best way to stop smoking is to never start. However, just in case our wonderful Government has taken that burden off the shoulders of anyone who turns 18 on or after 1/1/2009 by passing a law making it illegal for them to purchase tobacco.

Of course, no one has ever bought anything ever that they weren’t old enough to buy, not ever. Be interesting to see how that’s going to be policed.

This also raises the question of how the loss of revenue, increasing year on year, from sales of tobacco will be balanced out. By savings for our NHS who would be treating fewer and fewer folk for smoking related illnesses? That’s a very long term prospect and I can’t be bothered to crunch numbers.

In the short term, some of the revenue will be clawed back by taxing vape devices and products, which is ironic as vaping was lauded as the answer to quitting tobacco and, at one time, your GP could prescribe them FOC, along with nicotine patches and gum, to help you quit the evil weed.
I’ll add another link separately about vape tax.

As a footnote, I have been a 20 a day smoker from the age of 15, and I’m 72 now. I cut down to 10/12 simply because cigarettes are unbelievably expensive.

However, I have been advised, strongly, to stop for medical reasons, I won’t go into detail, but I’m proud to say that I have not had a cigarette since 13:00 on 16th April, and I don’t want one, either. However, I do love my new vape, or crack pipe as the Berserker calls it. I am allowed to vape, btw.

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Nominated by Jeezum Priest.

159 thoughts on “Thou shalt not…smoke, because we say so

  1. Nice on JP👍

    i gave up smoking over 6yrs ago.
    kept getting abcesses and chest injections due to smoking 20 a day,
    since stopping havent had either.

    You may find your sense of smell and taste return and put on a bit of weight.
    you may smell up to six and half stone!!!
    😁

  2. Yes, I’m looking forward to the foreigners arriving for their two weeks of holidays.

    The British especially will sit there scowling and tut-tutting when we happily light up on the terraces outside of the bars.

    If you don’t like it either sit inside, or even better, fuck off home.

    I’ve been smoking since I was old enough to steal packets of cigarettes from the newsagents before my morning paper round.

    Benson’s here are around €7 a packet.
    I know that you pay around £17 in the UK.
    And the fucking government there wants to charge extra taxes on what they call “The Tobacco Giants”.

    The government is the tobacco giant.

    Good morning!

      • Fuck’s sake!

        I will be buying 2 cartons today (we get a free half bottle of vodka with 400 fags brought).

        The price is 158 euros.
        That’s 7,90 a packet.

      • When I started riding mopeds in 1981, 20 B&H were the same price as a gallon of 2*, about 80p.
        Today, 5L of shit e10 works out around half the price of a pack of 20.

      • Early seventies Major, three gallons of 100 octane, a penny change out of a pound.

      • In all honesty TaC, it is now cheaper to grow and smoke your own marijuana than it is to sustain a 20 B&H a day habit.

        With the added bonus that you don’t pay a penny in tax to the thieving cunt Reeves.

      • Rachel will now be thinking petroleum is half the price in terms of ciggies compared to 50 years ago, let’s double the tax on petroleum and claim that we are forced to do so to save the planet.

      • Indeed Arfur, I remember my dad putting 5* in his Jag, both tanks full.

  3. More nanny state by government and civil serpents, that don’t know how the world work..
    No-one in the long history or the world has ever procured banned or illegal items before…

    Then I’m not surprised when this country’s leader is Mr charisma Rodney starmer,he just smokes small brown,smelly cigarillos, that explode in his fat face.

    • He prolly smokes those brightly coloured cocktail cigarettes with the gold filter, using a long, slender cigarette holder of course.

  4. And yet they want 16 year olds to be able to vote.

    If we’re talking about young people being able to do things that are seriously harmful to them, giving them the opportunity to elect Labour / Green politicians is gonna do much more lasting damage than a few L&Bs behind the bike-sheds.

      • Just a finger? She could probably have slotted her entire Hove flat up there and kept it hidden from HMRC

  5. Got off the weed in March 2023 after 42 years, and other than one pissed up smoke last year I stayed off. All thanks to a vape. But suddenly vapes are bad, so must be controlled, taxed and slagged off.
    Or, I suspect, must be slagged off, pilloried and supply chain controlled by the state so taxing them can be justified and implemented.

    Cunts.

      • One of the main reasons for the cynicism towards politicians Major. Time was the diesel motor car was a rare beast, a bit niche. Then the politicians decided this was the way to go and tilted the taxes to encourage their purchase. A few years later after they had got most people into diesels they changed their minds and changed the taxes so as heavily to penalise diesel cars. In particular, odinary families in London who had put their hard earned cash in diesels were royally shafted.

        Stick it to ’em, vote Reform!

      • When the madness is ended Arfur it will be ‘My electric car claim’ to compensate the twats that bought them.

  6. Even as a post-smoker ale drinker, there used to be nowt better ehen I was younger than some summer pints of high-quality lager down by the river and some ciggies…bliss!

    • With you 100% on that Thomas, sitting in the beer garden watching the Sun going down behind the hills, those small river sounds and the scents. Waiting for the first bats to flitter across the hedges.
      Good beer or lager, B&H smouldering in ashtray. They were fine days mate fading like last winters snows.

  7. My elder kid vapes…I do worry that he’s inhaling horrid chınky chemicals.
    Are the liquids regulated?
    Does any cunter know?
    Genuine question.

    • Sorry to say Thomas that most of them are made in Chy-na so all bets are off.

      Look on the bright side,think on all the stuff we used to breathe in from coal fires etc…times have changed.

      • Very good point UT. There were days in the sixties when standing outside, looking down I literally could not see my feet.

        Admittedly that was in Walsall.

  8. chinkys like smoking.
    probably why theyre yellow.

    An the french too, they think its glamourous.
    smoking and surrendering,
    they love it.

    Smoking a pipe is now almost exstinct.
    Rarely see it.
    shame, i liked the smell of pipe tobacco.

    yanks hate smoking.
    since the death of the Marlboro Man.
    But. wasnt smoking that killed him.
    was injuns.

  9. As far as I am aware, smokers disproportionately pay in to the NHS and are subsidising everybody else through the tax and duty they pay. I imagine fat people and the increasing proportion of elderly folk is a far greater burden on the health service than smoking.

    In any case, this is a gross intrusion into people’s liberties. What will the state ban next? Why stop at tobacco when there’s booze, hamburgers, sweets…?

    Besides which, the stench of marijuana is now ubiquitous in our urban areas and the middle classes are known to be using cocaine regularly. They don’t even enforce the rules they already have on the statute books, the useless cunts. And bearing in mind there is pressure to follow Canada, the US and other countries and decriminalise cannabis – which is also bad for your lungs and causes a mixture of laziness and psychosis – this just seems inconsistent and a waste of time.

    Also, how about all the homosexuals bumming each other senseless in woodland car parks, under bridges and in depraved all-night raves, spreading diseases such as monkey pox and AIDS? Will the state ban that? No they won’t. They will in fact continue to heavily promote and celebrate it.

    I think it’s a case of useless politicians wanting to be seen doing something. Anything. For no particularly necessary reason. So it doesn’t look so much like they spend their entire time not really doing anything other than arguing and grifting and being a total waste of oxygen.

    I suspect this will make young people want to get their hands on fags, when smoking rates have been falling for years. And there will be no end of corner shops willing to supply them with dodgy ones.

    I have been a smoker myself over the years but find it easy to stop when I want to. I am currently using heated tobacco which is big in the Emirates, and better than vaping in my opinion. It doesn’t leave any smell but is more like smoking, possibly better for you. But I don’t care what other people think. I eat lots of fruit and veg and exercise daily. I am in good shape. If I want to balance that out with some pleasures then that is my business. I am a tax paying Englishman so just sod off and stop telling me what to do. Who do these people even think they are? It isn’t as if they are wise saints is it?

  10. Even though i dont smoke anymore i dont beg.
    rudge others enjoying a smoke.

    Some people get a bit nazi once theyve stopped.

    Let people enjoy a packet of fags,
    theyve paid enough for them.
    the brown fingered, wheezing, smelly cunts.

  11. Perhaps that’s why those fucking dolts in Westminster are bringing in digital I.d?

    Otherwise how the fuck are they going to enforce this new law?

    I don’t see Barbara at tesco or Mohamed in the corner shop/brothel asking for some cunts passport when they want 20 B&H.

    More and more rules,intrusion and Big Government shite.

    High tar Oven.

    Good morning.

  12. It’s fine for confused teenagers to go under the knife and have breasts and testicles removed, and then be condemned to a life of powerful hormone drugs, followed by inevitable regreat and suicide. But it isn’t ok for them to smoke, which might cause health problems in approximately 50 years’ time.

    Regime Derangement.

    • smokers.
      ive another name for you…
      MURDERERS.

      dont deny it.
      you fuckers killed Roy Castle.

      All got together and blew your pousonous fumes into Roys innocent virginal lungs.

      4 things Roy liked
      1. Tapdancing (early onset downs syndrome)

      2. blowing that trumpet like kier starmer blows a ukrainian rentboy
      3. other peoples fag smoke
      4. records getting broken.

      you knew this but killed him anyway.
      ill never forgive you for that.

      • I saw Roy Castle in cabaret in Harrogate in the late 70s.

        He brought a set of bagpipes on stage and asked the audience to shout out a tune for him to play. Someone shouted ‘The Fight of the Bumblebee’, and fuck me he played it. Yes, on the bagpipes.

        And I know it wasn’t staged, because it was me who shouted it out.

      • Geordie ; you reminded me of my favourite line in a sitcom, ever.

        Black Books. Bernard is hurrying down a street, his intention to stop his ‘summer girlfriend’ from moving way. He arrives beneath her upstairs-flat window ; all this time he’s been ‘wearing’ a big accordion.

        She asks him firstly why he’s there.

        ‘I’ve come to win you back by serenading you’

        Then she points at the instrument and asks ‘WHY an accordion?’

        ‘Because I can’t play the guitar’ ; …. ‘I can’t play this either, but I thought it would be less obvious’

        🙂

      • Windsor Castle got some smoke damage too, & Barbara Castle died of pneumonia & chronic lung disease attributed to a life of heavy smoking.

      • In a way though Lord S it was a release for her, she was going gaga. A near neighbour’s mother is in a care home. She visits her regularly but admits it seems almost pointless. The woman was a dentist, ran the practice, now she doesn’t know where she is, doesn’t recognise her own close relatives and passes each day staring vacantly out of the window and subsisting on a few biscuits and sips of tea. I hope before that point the wife suffocates me.

  13. 10 No6 1972 – 11p

    If worked a Saturday morning overtime I could afford something quality..!

    10 embassy – 12p.

    Happy days, nu fucking Muslim shite those days. The cunts kept their heads down..!

  14. Never smoked,never wanted to 🚬 but I don’t begrudge anyone else spending their money on them should they wish…apart from the lazy bone idle who haven’t done a day’s work in their life who in effect are getting them free 🧐… anyway there’s a new fag brand that’s more prevelant than bensons in today’s society… trans blend 🏳️‍🌈…smoke on that

  15. I haven’t smoked for thirty odd years.

    Occasionally I’ll get a whiff of cig or cigar smoke and could absolutely murder one.

    Cigs and cigars I have loved….

    No. 6

    No. 10

    Regal

    JPS

    Woodbine’s

    Senior Service

    Capstan Full Strength

    Park Drive

    MORE…… ( post coitus mainly, with an old girlfriend ( RIP ) who was a bit avant garde

    Castella

    Hamlet

    Henri Winterman

    San Toy cheroots.

    Apologies to any cancer sticks that I’ve forgotten to mention.

    Good morning 🌞👍

  16. Mrs Jelmet is a bit of a smoker.
    Nothing too heavy but likes to have a few with a couple of glasses of wine. That type of thing.

    We went to beautiful sunny Greece recently and she was delighted to find that 20 ciggies and a lighter came to about 6 Euros.

    Makes you realise what a bunch of piss taking parasitical pirates the Yoookay government are.

    Good morning.

  17. I used to go to this pub where they had a selection of snuff on the bar in this covered, wooden tray thing. That’s good shit although it got up my nose a bit. The Swedes have that snuss stuff in a little tea bag they put next to their gum. Those are banned in the EU, but Sweden was given a special carve out. Goes to show it is just a big pile of lobbying by competing vested interests. As if they give a fk about people’s health.

    Meanwhile, here’s another thing they are supposed to have banned: guns. But the people of Coventry beg to differ…

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15819015/Moment-gangland-shooting-spills-familys-backyard.html

    • skoal bandits mr grasshopper.

      They got banned in the 80s uk.
      people worried about them causing cancer of the mouth.

      i remember watching a Mike Tyson fight and the advertising was for skoal bendits.
      shame.
      i never got to try them.😔

      Always fancied trying that chewing tobaccy.
      so i can spit black all over a
      labour canvasser.

    • Fucking bunch of retards, pathetic assassination attempt or whatever it was. Many types of firearms can only be held on a section 5 ticket ordinary Joe has as much chance of getting one as he has a family trip to Neptune. As you can see by this video the strict firearms laws are working

    • Me and the lad heard the shots… watched the Air Ambulance set down on Sufian’s Field which is just a street away, copper chopper spent a solid hour hovering over Plantshill Wood and environs… nowt unusual really because a mile south in Canley sits Currier’s Close Ind Est and you can pretty much guarantee at least once a week there’ll be a chopper spotlighting some fucking miscreant on the estate.

  18. My first introduction to cigarettes was when a young lad, being sent to travel on late night buses by my parents to collect dimps from the top decks which are remains of fags. Then once home roll up the tobacco in a machine to make them whole again.

    I didn’t get into the habit until close on twenty and smoked the none filtered Park Drive, Woodbines and the top notch Capstan Full Strength. Then when they started making them tipped, I gave up and got fed up with having to break off the tips. Also it was interfering with my concert going and needed a fag whilst listening to long symphonies by Bruckner. Even drank strong lager, but gave it up due to having a heart attack. I’ve always been strong willed when it came to giving things up and only recently stopped eating sweets, cake and meats other than chicken.

  19. Cigarettes whiskey and wild wild women….

    I will go with the wild women

    The government like banning stuff, makes them feel important, easier than actually doing anything remotely useful.
    Smoking is bad, I know I used to smoke but it’s a choice like having a pint or pimm’s.

    It’s banned for children, let adults make the choice.

    Men smoking other men’s cocks should be banned, that’s women’s work.

  20. I don’t feel sorry for any of to days namby-pamby youngster generation, because they knew nothing of the difficulties I had to endure after the last war having to struggle. I just ignored the mard arse fuckers, the weak willed cunts.

  21. I used to enjoy a pouch of Golden Vagina. Lovely and moist. Probably need a bank loan to buy it here now. I got one in Spain for about six quid a couple of years ago. We are being robbed blind. What are they spending it all on? We don’t seem to get anything other than our bins being emptied.

    • I think the going rate is about £50 for a 50 gramme pouch now. I remember coming through Dover customs with two boxes of baccy under the rear passenger seat of a Vauxhall Carlton estate with a shitload of beer on display. The rear suspension inflated to 70 psi.
      Now 10 packs of baccy between two people at about £20 a packet.

    • I smoke a pipe often a clay pipe, sometimes I buy pure Turkish tobacco 50 grams loose and 25 grams of Latakia also loose. Runs about £36 plus £5 postage. Normally it’s Gold Block at £20.08 40 grams or Condor Ready Rubbed at £24.00 for 50 grams. Fucking horrendous prices. If I had a greenhouse would try growing my own like our family Doctor did back in the 60s. I think many illegal drugs are cheaper.

      • God, I miss my pipe, I used to smoke clan. I was advised to give everything up after my first cancer treatment in 2017.
        I still smell the odd cigarette and want to mug the smoker for it.

  22. I gave up the smokes 23 years ago, although I had a couple of my sister’s cigs at Christmas. A nice treat, but I won’t be restarting. Too expensive and for the obvious health reasons.

    What I hate is cunts who lecture and play Little Hitler over smoking. Yet they themselves are slaves to their precious iPhones, their crappy soaps and shit like Strictly, and gambling (religiously doing the ‘lotties’ and those bastard scratchcards). Not to mention Tik Tok, social media, Whassap and all that other vile modern vacant shite.

    Some smug self satisfied twat will say ‘I don’t smoke. I’m not in the power of tobacco’. No, you’re in the power of the phone companies, social media and the gambling firms. A lot of the working class are always enslaved by something. Anthony Burgess once said about the Victorian era, ‘They took away our opium. So, they gave us beer and football.’ Now, the beer and football are all but unaffordable (and crap) and/or sanitised. And, smoking is now viewed on a par with leprosy (and, again, nigh on unaffordable). So, those pleasures have been replaced by those bastard phone monstrosities, compulsive gambling and all that social media bollocks.

    As that well known Scouse gobshite once said,

    ‘Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
    And you think you’re so clever and classless and free
    But you’re still fucking peasants as far as I can see
    A working class hero is something to be.’

    • When I gave up the fags and drink, Norman, I knew it would be ridiculous of me to complain to others who couldn’t, but was glad when the law brought in no smoking in public places. What I do when walking past a smoker, I over do the holding of breath to comic effect with the blowup cheeks and waving my arms around.

  23. More and more people are committing suicide over gambling debts and addiction.

    Mobile phones cause terrible noise pollution. On public transport, in airports, in cinemas and theatres, in hospitals (wards and waiting areas) and even in church at weddings, funerals and masses..

    Social media is a breeding ground for loonies, narcissists, naunce cases, radical islamists, terrorists and are a hive of child bullying as well as grooming.

    Any ban for any of these menaces to our society? No, thought not. Think of the money.

    • This voluntary submission to the tyranny of the mobile phone Norman, programme on the telly last night, clips of people’s genuine GP appointments. Woman whose phone rings in the middle of her appointment, interrupts the doctor to answer the fucking thing! If I was the doctor I’d chuck her off the list.

      • When he was Manchester United manager, Alex Ferguson loathed phones in the dressing room.

        When he was giving one of his team talks/bollockings at half time, a phone started ringing. Fergie’s face turns to fury….

        It was the phone of team captian Steve Bruce. Brucie said ‘Sorry Gaffer, It’s my wife, she’s got a bad back.’

        Ferguson grabbed the phone and smashed it to bits on the dressing room tiled floor. ‘Tell her I’ve got two fucking bad backs!’ he screamed, as he glared at Bruce and his fellow centre half Gary Pallister.

        Loved the Fergie of old in those days.

      • You see it in shops, arfur.

        Cunts being served at the till. They don’t even look at or talk to the lady serving them. They yadder on their precious phones and just pay without a please thank you or kiss my arse. Gen Z student cunts are the worst for this. But some older cunts are also guilty.

        I see my lack of a touchscreen phone as a last vestige of independence. I don’t want to be like all the other cunts. Looking at it like a mong every other minute and letting it rule their lives.

  24. To add… Some imbeciles have asked me to join a ‘Whassap’ group for the dialyisis patients at my unit. Well, first, I don’t have one of those touchscreen phones, I fucking hate them. A phone was meant for talking on and listening on. It is not a fucking television or radio. And, in the wrong hands (which they mostly are) they are a bloody curse and a pest to any decent normal person.

    Second, and go on there and talk about what? Dialysis? Bollocks to that. I’ll talk to my Doctor about that. Once I’ve been there, I prefer to leave it there, I don’t want it touching my outside life.

    Finally, on the subject of imbeciles. Blabbering crap about TikTok, fucking Emmerdale, and cunts from fucking Bolton and WIgan claiming to be Liverpool fans and telling me Man United are shit. When they’ve never been to Anfield in their lives or even the city of Liverpool itself.

    Nah, fuck off.

    • This sums it up…

      I recently mention to the so called Liverpool supporter that Kevin Keegan had the Big C and how sad it was.

      ‘Yeah, he is a legend in Newcastle’ says this pillock.

      ‘And in Liverpool. He is a legend as a Liverpool player.’

      Blank look, and I could tell he had no idea Keegan ever played for Liverpool. And, this is no daft kid or Gen Z. He is 53 years old.

      Whassap group, my arse.

    • smokers stink.
      fact
      i knew this when i was a smoker but couldnt smell it so didnt give a fuck.
      But once we had to pick this old boy up for work in Oldham.

      fuck me did he reek.
      like the cunt had been in a bonfire!!
      dunno how many he smoked,
      like a human ashtray.
      i got to wondering,
      did i smell like that to nonsmokers?

      But couldnt of smelt as bad as this yellow fingered fucker,
      hed make dogshite faint.

    • If it’s to be a white man, tenner says they make him bisexual. Camp Q makes him a ketamin powered dildo for those all night raves in Soho.

      • If they want a Manc style world weary aging Bond – a bit like Albert Finney doing Never Say Never Again meets Gene Hunt in Life On Mars – then I would be willing to audition,

        But, I’d have to insist that Scarlett Johansson, Sydney Sweeney, Hayley Atwell and Lizzie Olsen are my Bond Girls.

    • As long as it isn’t that brain dead block of wood cunt Jacob Elordi. He is fucking useless. His turn in that Mummy Porn Wuthering Heights is hilariously bad. About as menacing as a worm’s turd. Elordi is like Engelbert Humperdinck with a lobotomy.

      And, it should not be a swinger of the trees either.
      Ian Fleming did not write Bond as a fog inspector.

      • Indeed Norman. Roger Moore towards the end of his life got in trouble for mentioning the fact that Fleming had written Bond as a white Englishman. Despite the years of charity work for poor and disadvantaged children worldwide he was cancelled far and wide for stating the fucking obvious.

        Imagine if we pushed back and said it was racist to insist that Muhammad Ali could not be portrayed on screen by Benerdict Cuminmybatch, there’d be fucking pavement apes looting shops like it was Christmas in protest.

      • Too right, Dave.

        Anne Boleyn. Murdered mother of Queen Elizabeth I and important figure in English history is portrayed as a dyed in the wool treeswinger. No cunt bats an eyelid.

        Yet, Roger Moore – who was the longest serving Bond – makes a true point about a fictional character, and the chimps start throwing their shit at everyone. The joys of diversity.

  25. Never gambled, Norman and think it’s a mugs game. Just amused myself on thinking of gambling on mugs. What helped me with having the will for not throwing away money, was starting off living in a poor family where money was sacred for staying alive. Going to bed early in winter due to having no coal for the fire and no money for food. Now loaded, I still keep a tight hold on my spondulicks and besmirch on the money grabbers.

      • yeah.
        ill stick it in the gas meter.
        along with those hungarian coins ive been feeding it.

      • You still have a gas metre ?
        My late brother in law had one, but took the lock off it and paid the metre-man half the amount in cash and pointed to his chin and said take the rest out of this.

    • That’s the thing, Sammy.
      In our day, it was pay the gas, pay the electric, pay the rates, pay the coal man, milkman, and get a pint, some smokes and some fish and chips if we were lucky.

      Now? Bloody lottery, lucky dips, scratch cards, vapes, Sky TV, Maccy Dees, KFC, and expensive phones. And, the fuckers then go to food banks because they are ‘skint’. Bastards.

      The late great Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor in Richard Donner’s Superman (1978)…. ‘Seasons come and go, Stocks will rise and fall. People, are just no damn good.’

      • Some people’s order of priorities seems to have gone to shit these days Norman. Folks round me whose houses are going to rack and ruin for want of basic maintenance but they lease flash cars with registration numbers that feature their initials and go on exotic holidays. My granny used to say first thing you pay is the rent. if you can’t pay the electricity sit in the dark. If you can’t afford coal put your coat on. Now if you can’t afford this year’s iphone you’re poverty stricken. I don’t know what they think of my fifteen year old car and I care fucking less.

      • True, arfur. All true.

        Cunts all like zombies on their iPhones. I’ve just got a normal phone. A good one but one that does what a phone was originally invented for. None of this Angry Bird and TikTok shit for me. And, if I want the football results or fixtures, I will wait till I get home. It’s nothing that important. People are such lazy and entitled cunts these days.

        Even people who are out together. Not talking or looking at each other, as they stare into their phones. Like there is nothing else on Earth. Zombies and slaves, Brain dead cunts.

    • That episode of Steptoe & Son ‘The Desperate Hours’.

      Where a freezing Harold and Albert put a load of foreign coins in the meter.. Also, Harold is desperately craving a cigarette. Perfectly reflected Heath’s Britain.

      • one of my favourite episodes.

        Leonard Rossiter as escaped lag Johnny😁

        cant beleive how skint the Steptoes are.
        brilliant.

  26. I used to smoke little cigar’s that came in a small tin, we used to keep small drills in them.

    Can’t remember the name..?

  27. Good nom JP. I remember seeing this shit when New Zealand’s horse faced ‘be kind’ dictator Jacinda Ardern introduced it a few years ago, cynically timed after she turned the country into the Covid hermit kingdom so the population was more susceptible to nanny state overreach.

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