Roger McGuinn (and the Byrdy Song)

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(Crosby on the left, Big Mac on the right:  – Day Admin)

Roger McGuinn is a cunt.

I was recently reminded what a Mike Love-esque cunt McGuinn can be. In 1989, McGuinn organised a Byrds box set on CD. The first of its kind. But what McGuinn did was deliberately ignore and slight Gene Clark (RIP).

Gene was still alive at this time, and could have done with the royalties boost. But McGuinn purposely left off legendary Clark written/sung Byrds tracks like ‘Set You Free This Time’ and ‘If You’re Gone’. In his liner note for the same box set, McGuinn failed to even mention Gene Clark (or drummer, Michael Clarke). Yet he reluctantly cosied up to David Crosby as they cashed in on a three man ‘Byrds’ reunion with Chris Hillman. Now, McGuinn usually openly despises Croz and vice versa. But the way they clubbed together in 89/90 and purposely froze Clark out absolutely stank. It appears they still resented Gene for being the main singer, songwriter and fanny magnet in the Byrds. McGuinn later pulled the same trick on Crosby himself. When he and Hillman later toured. They said it wasn’t a Byrds reunion, yet they sang their songs and made it clear Croz wasn’t welcome.

There has also been some McCartney type revisionism from McGuinn about ‘Eight Miles High’. Every sod knows that the song was Gene’s composition about a fear of flying and a first visit to London. Now with Gene sadly dead since 1991, McGuinn now says that Eight Miles High was mostly written by himself. Everyone else involved (including Crosby) disputes this. Snubbing the great Gene Clark was bad enough, but attempting to nick his most famous work too?

And don’t even start me on the crap McGuinn put out in the Byrds name after the mighty ‘Notorious Byrd Brothers’ album.

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Nominated by: Norman

78 thoughts on “Roger McGuinn (and the Byrdy Song)”

  1. With many musicians it’s better to listen to the music without knowing a lot about the people that made it.

    Many great musicians were grade a narcissist cunts, even see it in small local bands, often the lead singer or guitarist has an ego far beyond their worth.

    • Bang on👍
      There seems to be a grudging, mutual respect between more successful musicians (much of it faux for the purpose of career enhancement), yet they look down on or blank less successful musicians.

      Case in point:
      A mate of mine back in the early 90’s, was a brilliant drummer. He played in several groups, including a fun group I was in.
      He did a lot of session and touring work.
      A well known “indie” band had a uk tour, but there drummer was too ill to tour. 3 days before the tour, my mate was asked to step in, and had 24 hours to learn their set, prior to a last rehearsal.
      At the rehearsal, he was informed that he was “not part of the group” and would not be on the tour bus, would have to drive himself to the gigs and stay at local hotels.
      The whole tour, they barely spoke to him.
      This is a respected musician who was head and shoulders above these cunts, as a musician and a smashing lad.

      Being the consummate professional he is, he earned thousands and enhanced his reputation and CV.
      He is still making a living from music, today.
      I bet they aren’t 😉

    • All rich trust fund cunts in the USA were on a bandwagon music trip from the peace movement bollocks. I watched that Woodstock film the other day. Organisers? All rich fucking trust fund cunts.

  2. Admin: you have labelled the photo back to front👍

    (I knew I’d fuck it up! Thanks, and corrected – Day Admin)

  3. I think Sixdog’s got this right; listen to the music, don’t get too wrapped up in the doings of the performer (unless it’s Madonna, in which case don’t bother with either).
    For any of you guys who might be too young to be familiar with The Byrds, by way of introduction may I offer for your enjoyment (I hope) my all-time favourite track of theirs;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6JhTSzZXzg

  4. Que? A cunting for Roger McGuinn, the creative force behind so much incredible music from the 1960s into the 1990s?

    What is the world coming to?

    Oh yeah, I forgot. The world’s gone mad.

    • I heard Roger mcGuinn beat up mana Cass Elliott for taking a cheese triangle from his fridge without asking.
      Left her for dead.
      And when he heard Neil Youngs ‘after the goldrush’
      He was that consumed by jealousy he kicked a stray dog to death.

      Dont know much else about him.
      The satanic cunt.

      • Oh and although a big music fan,
        I hate the fuckin Byrds.
        The boring bastards,
        That mr Tambourine Man shite makes me want to cut his fingers off .

      • Evening Miserable.

        Satanic cunt indeed – he was a Born Again Christian in the 1970s. Don’t know if he still is.

        My favourite Byrds albums are mid to late period:
        Fifth Dimension, Younger Than Yesterday, Notorious Byrd Brothers, Dr Byrds & Mr Hyde, and Untitled.

        Also highly rate the McGuinn, Clark & Hillman band from the late ’70s early ’80s.

      • Evening Ruff.
        I like most 60s early 70s music,
        But for some reason never ‘got” the Byrds.
        The whole Laurel canyon/LA thing I quite like but just cant enjoy the Byrds.

  5. Shite band, shite music, let it go you silly old wankers, another group of embarrassing has been’s in the same mould as Jagger and co.!

  7. If I didn’t get on with some Cunt,I wouldn’t help them out with royalties or whatever either…Fuck them.

    • Mr Fiddler I know you’re very busy preparing the Towers for the much annticipated Christmas Party. But I wonder could you secrete one or two these wonderful new devices about the place. See it would stop any unpleasant talk and people falling out because of offensive language.
      Christmas is all about having innocent fun like pin the tail on the donkey and charades and we all I am sure would like to keep it like that.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10200293/amp/Trigger-warning-device-classrooms-parties-sounds-alarm-detects-offensive-language.html

      • Good grief, the damned thing would end up self destructing in mine, and my children’s homes. There are no fucking boundaries, offensive language is encouraged.
        Steam has to be vented, otherwise it blows up.

      • Evening,Miles.

        No need for any snooping devices…I have been whittling down the ..isac punter list lately based on whether I find the punter personally offensive….unfortunately,as you are probably aware,I am a Gentleman of delicate sensibilities and the list of acceptable guests was quickly culled down to just myself and Ruff Tough Creampuff….in light of recent shocking revelations I have,of course,now reduced the “welcome” list to myself and The Hounds.

        Bagels and Lox for Christmas dinner indeed.

        (But what about the invites you sent to us Admins earlier this year! I can understand whittling out some of the lesser elements on here, but surely the admin invitation should still stand? – Day Admin)

      • Lord Fidler, there will be many disappointed IsAC’ers, who have gone to the expense of purchasing a map of Northumberland, an English:Geordie translator, stout hessian undergarments, Guinness, tinned pies and the 2022 Gemma A tasteful nude calendar as gifts for you😢

      • What about me?!!

        I bring savoir faire and class to any social gathering.
        Got them posh chocolates too.
        Ferrero roshe.
        What beer you got Dick?
        Dont want any of that poofy wine,
        Or that lager piss you serve these lot.

        Oh and stick some sausage rolls on as well.

      • PS: Your withdrawal of my invitation to your Xmas party is perfectly understandable. After all, as a Papist, you wouldn’t want any WASPs buzzing around your do. 🙂

      • I suppose you don’t want your smoking jacket dry cleaned Ruff, now you will not be taking after dinner brandy and cigars with his Lordship in the snug.

      • If Dick fails in the party stakes im going to Miles’s.
        Sensational Alex Harvey an a piss up.

      • @Admin

        I would,of course,love to stand by those ( incredibly drunk when I sent them) invitations…I had rather hoped that you might have realised that it wasn’t actually meant for you.The “…I’m gonna stuff yer cavities like a cheap Bernard Matthews turkey,rub Lurpack up yer Parson’s nose and pork inject yer gizzard..ya filthy Tart” really should have tipped you off that the invitation was actually meant for Gemma…. instead you seem to have deliberately misunderstood and I will regret to my dying day putting my address on the card…your all-too-frequent,increasingly desperate, “YES,YES, I’M CUMMING” replies are worrying the poor postman… the Brut-scented, lipstick-smeared,crayon written, SWALKed pink envelopes really are quite a rarity in rural Northumberland.

        ….and Fuck only knows what Gemma made of her ” Get Fucked” mistake letter.

      • Not to worry Miserable and Ruffers, Henry Winkler and Warwick Davis didn’t make the guestlist either.

      • Evening Ruff…er, yes, well forget about that for now. Fiddler is a man of fine taste so he will appreciate that Afghan coat you have mentioned.

      • I think I’d go with the Groucho Marx thing of not wanting to join any club that would accept me as a member in this instance.

        I think Fiddler would only invite me so he could bully me all evening anyway.

  8. The Byrds, like Fairport Convention, only really crap.
    I did like ‘ Eight Miles High’ though.

  9. Totally unrelated to this nom, but linked to the difficulties of getting reliable trades to turn up, I am very pleased to report that the massively overgrown conifer is no more.
    Not the original contractor, and cost nearly twice as much, but wow, it was like watching Blaine make the Taj Mahal vanish.

    • Was that Blaine or Copperfield? I thought Blaine just lived in blocks of ice.

      I hate magic.

  10. Roger Waters, Roger McGuinn, Roger Daltrey. All three Rogers guilty of cuntitude to degrees.

    My money is on Waters being the biggest cunt of the three.

      • Indeed, if anyone proves Sixdog’s point from earlier it is Waters. Great music, cosmic cunt.

    • Paul-surely Waters support of Assange and his dismissal of self appointed guardians as cunts, overrides some of his less popular actions.
      Plus he is a brilliant musician and songwriter. Truly one of the greats👍

      • I had overlooked his noble defence of JA CG, but he’s still a cunt, but a cunt who makes sublime music.

        Maybe he’s helped stop Jools’s bids for comfortable numbness.

      • Ron: Phil Cool did a great piss take of Roger Whitaker, in the 80’s-it may be on YouTube?

        “There’s a shit, lies floating in the harbour….”
        😂👏

  11. Saw this nobhead once on the same bill as Tom Petty and Dylan.

    He kicked the evening off and was absolute fucking shite.

    Zimmy wasn’t much better either to be fair. One of his “couldn’t give a fuck” nights.

  12. This reminds me of l’egendary’ artists that are over hyped.

    Marvin Gaye- I get why his dad shot him

    BB king- like a fuckin pisshead outside a pub, awful.

    Whitesnake-dreadful

    UB40- makes you envy deaf people

    Prince- the best argument for abortion ive ever seen.

    • What’s Marvin Gaye got in common with his last single?

      Both black with a hole in the middle….

    • Ha ha ha-surely you jest😂

      Marvin and BB?
      Marvin is like a singing version of your favourite knee-grow from Larry David.
      BB is musical royalty. A unique sound, just like Clapton, Gilmour, Page etc…

      Who is your favourite then, Mis?

      • Saw some live footage of BB King the other night CG.
        Simply awful.
        Id of booed the cunt if I’d been in the audience.
        Dunno if he was pissed up or what?
        But he should of been prosecuted for crimes against the Blues.

        My favourite band?
        Zeppelin.l

    • I saw White snake headlining Monsters of Rick at Donnington years ago, two hours if fucking dirge, awful, The rest of the set was way better with Aerosmith on second billing which included a cameo walk on by Jimmy Page – fucking awesome. It was what the yoof of today would call a mic drop. “Follow that Coverdale, you cunt!”

      • Monsters of Rick ffs.

        This fucking android text prediction is taking the piss. It’s like Ronnie Barker’s pispronunciation sketch.

      • I fucking hate “hairspray rock”.

        Never went to monsters of rock.
        In fact, as a lover of music, I never really liked the “festi-scene”. 🤔

        Went under duress with girlfriends or mates who were working sound or playing.
        I suppose if you are into chemical experiences, which I am not, then festivals are great…

      • I agree about the festival scene actually CG, but I was young and went along with the crowd. You have to attend some festivals to form an opinion. I formed the opinion that standing in a field for upwards of 8 hours with 100000 cunts pissing where they stand because the portaloo line is too long was not for me.

        At least rock and metal crowds are generally salt if the earth, non-work poseurs.

      • …had I attended Glastonbury or Reading I’m almost certain to have killed some cunt..

      • I attended some fucking brilliant small festivals in the mid to late 80’s-great days👍

      • I like “Hairspray Rock” CG:

        > Brilliant guitar playing.
        > Not woke.
        > Hot women with nice legs and nice asses wearing revealing clothing and doing the splits on the body of a sports car.
        > Songs about driving cars and picking up lasses. No shoe-gazing, feeling sorry for myself shite about some stuck up, vegan lass that turned me down.
        >No climate change brow beating schtick about what bastard I am for driving to work every day and back or using eleccy
        >No underlying political agenda

      • The thing is CG, we didn’t call them ‘festivals’ back then, irs when we started to that the rot set in.

        And Cuntflu, I remember the cigarette girls, Rothmans if I remember right, some proper slappers. Did you line up for the portaloos, go where you stood or just piss in a gallon squash bottle and hurl it upwards?

        Steve Vai was the redeeming feature I agree, but the material he had to work with was not consistent with his talents. I think Poison, thunder and the Black Cowes we’re on too.

      • Queuing to use a portaloo is the least rock-n-roll thing imaginable.

        The only decent festivals are the smaller ones where you can camp for free because your brother is a drummer and you can shit in a hedge.

        Glastonbury is for cunts.

    • I was once offered free tickets with hospitality, for a UB40 gig.
      I said “thanks, but no thanks.”

      • I had a pop at Boni earlier but I don’t think a single nom is big enough for that lot, it could take down WordPress.

      • Remember the teaching of Sixdog CG, don’t conflate the quality of the music with the magnitude of the cuntitude of those who made it.

      • Morrissey is still a person to look up to for values regarding society. On the other hand, Johnny Marr is a bit of a cunt.

      • To be honest, I feel sorry for Johnny Marr.
        He never moved on: spent years slagging off Morrisey, then years touring with his band, trying to sound like Morrisey.
        Then found “his voice”, on a number of records.
        Didn’t sell many.
        Now trying to look and sound like the smiths, 40 years later😂

  13. Still can’t appreciate their country rock album sweetheart of the rodeo Norm? I remember you previously saying you disliked that album

    Its definitely not my favourite either but I’ve grown to appreciate it over time BoER and untitlted albums were pretty decent tho before they did that dreadful reunion album

  14. Always thought Eight Miles High was getting on a plane stoned killer tune 5th dimension might be my favourite Byrds album but YTY and NBB are ace too

  15. Always thought The Byrds were a great band.
    Eight Miles High is a classic.

    Became familiar with them after watching Easy Rider in my teenage years.

  16. Never knew that McGuinn shafted Gene Clark on the boxed set. Gene was amazing, No Other is a masterpiece. McGuinn doesn’t come across as a cunt in interviews, he seems humble. Did he become a born again Christian? Amazing guitar player, but I don’t like his singing, very bland, passionless voice.

    Those rockers from the 60s and 70s are revealing themselves to be bellends these days. Springsteen at the front of the stage, of course. They did it all and had it all, all the drugs and pussy and money and mansions and Lear Jets and yadda yadda yadda, but STILL they aren’t happy, they STILL want attention in their 70s like they are little kids. Fuck off, you had your time. Leave a great legacy by letting your music and philanthropy doing the talking.

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