Sexual Harassment?

Andrew Cuomo is in trouble. Accused of sexual harassment.

Clicked on it with delight. ‘Cos I don’t like him one bit. But I don’t know…one of the things said he asked a female colleague if she had slept with an older man. Obviously far too intimate a question. But is that sexual harassment? No touching at all remember. In fact not one of those accusing him have said he touched them in anyway.

No denying that a man can make a woman uncomfortable with salacious talk. But does that constitute harassment?

Nicola Sturgeon I notice is making great play about how shocked she was to hear of the sexual harassment claims about Alex Salmond. She’s said I think pointedly that Salmond hasn’t apologised to the women involved.

Well, all charges were dismissed in his case. Maybe Alex Salmond deserves an apology from the women that put him through hell for two years with the threat of jail with what you might call frivolous claims.

I know one claim was that Salmond pretended to be a Zombie in the company of a female colleague. Not very edifying for the First Minister of Scotland I grant you. In this Zombie mode he tried to kiss her. I don’t know it just seems to me a clumsy attempt at a pass. And for that you can possibly go to jail now.

In the case of Charlie Elphricke he has gone to jail. For two years.

I thought it was harsh I’ve got to be honest. The infamous quote here is ‘I’m a naughty Tory’ rubbed her breast and tried to kiss her. The only other one years later he tried to put his hand up a woman’s skirt. She rebuffed him and he stopped. That was it. Two years. Lost his job, wife, estranged from his daughter. 40 character witnesses- his lawyer appealed to the female judge ‘he has learned his lesson’. No mercy. Two years in jail. Not suspended.

I don’t know the particular circumstances. But couldn’t he have misread the situation?
Now someone like Max Clifford did deserve jailtime. Why? Because he got IT out. His ‘little winkke’ as he called it. Now we all know that crosses the line. That was definitely sexual harassment.

Mind you Max suffered a lot. His daughter has said that his enduring a freezing jail cell contributed to his death.

Not a popular opinion I wouldn’t imagine but the problem with the first three is having women in the workplace. It’s true. Or rather having men and women in the workplace. The man, the proper breadwinner, gets confused in his relationship with women colleagues. He doesn’t know if he’s been flirted with if he’s the boss.

Men aren’t always astute at reading these things. I remember myself being at work once with a woman. I was like Charlie Brown and ‘the little red head girl’. My heart beating, sweating, I didn’t know what I was doing. Yes, I was confused.

Nominated by: Miles Plastic

https://news.sky.com/story/new-york-governor-andrew-cuomo-truly-and-deeply-apologises-after-sexual-harassment-claims-12235292

54 thoughts on “Sexual Harassment?

  1. What worries me about this current state of affair, is the willingness of the “authorities” to persue complaints with great voracity when thy are indeed very historic. Im an old boy now, but in my time Ive felt a bit tit, snogged and generally had a good grope. All in the process of growing up. In today’s life I would face the gallows.
    The young expeditious male of today is indeed at great peril in life’s great adventure.

  2. Excellent nom., Miles…excellent.

    Of course…if more people followed the guidance contained in The Good Book, they wouldn’t get themselves into these pickles.

      • You vile blasphemer…it’s The Devil’s pitchfork up the arse that you’ve got to look forward to.

      • Ho ho😚

        Morning your Lordship.
        As lord of Northumberland, is ur still a requirement for landed gentry to preach “fire & bromstone” on a Sunday morning, to your parishioners?

        Do you get any ancient feudal rights? Pick of the litter from
        the farmer, first “go” on attractive virgins, reduced council rates-those sort of things?
        🤔

      • I DO enjoy preaching a good Ian Paisley-style lesson to the congregation on a Sunday …I particularly enjoy bellowing at the children that they are all destined to lead a miserable life followed by an Eternity in The Fiery Pits of Hell….that’ll teach the little Sods not to run screaming about in the bar of a Sunday dinnertime.

      • I agree that children should be seen and not heard.
        In fact they should not be seen at all,in a public house, unless they are attractive females over the age of 18👍

      • Ian Paisley is a fucking legend.

        “Neveeeeeeerrrrrrr!!”

        “May Satan fuck you up tha arse, you degenerate! Die you bastard!”

        Ok, I made one of them up.

      • Mathew 3:15

        ‘But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.’
        KJV

  3. It’s a fucking Witch Hunt👎

    Sex has been pushed onto the masses, on television, in cinemas, in print, on all the new media platforms.
    It’s the most lucrative subject matter.
    Is it any wonder that some people cannot distinguish between fantasy and reality.
    Not excusing the serious offenders-flirting may be inappropriate but it is not harassment.
    If that was the case, I could have made a fortune from lawsuits against women, in my youth.

    Just another example of the victim mentality?
    Who decided what is acceptable? Millie Tant Lesbians?😉

    Serious sexual harassment?
    The worst offenders, by far are the waves of various immigrant filth that have infested our shores. Fact.

    What’s the solution to this “harassment”?
    What do these fuckers want? A sharia state, where women are dressed head to foot, with only their eyes on display?
    Perhaps ban women from working?

    Throwing the “sexual harassment” hand grenade at a male colleague, it’s the ultimate career enhancer.
    Ask Nicola 😉

    • Funny you mentioned Milly Tant. I was just about to mention her, but you beat me to it.

      Where once we laughed at the over the top man-hating extreme feminist type like Milly Tant, it seems these fuckers now make the rules and set the Overton window for most western countries. We all laughed at these useless social science/wimmins studies/anti-honky man degrees, but the fuckers now control all western institutions.

      They will leave the west in an absolute chaotic mess within about a decade. If you think it’s bad now, imagine in ten years when taking to a woman without permission via an app will be illegal?

      Not even joking by the way. They’re already trying to put consent on apps.

      The good news is that once everyone wakes up and says ‘fuck this!’, we’ll probably see a right wing purge of this madness.

  4. Miles: Max Clifford was perhaps one of the biggest degenerates if the 20th century.
    The way he exploited people for money-no subject was taboo to him.
    He has a daughter who was disabled, in a wheelchair. He used her situation to garner sympathy for himself.
    I met him on several occasions, a thoroughly unpleasant cunt.
    He had an Asian lady chauffeur-I wonder if his relationship with her was purely professional?

    He had an interest in homes for adults with severe learning difficulties (epilepsy etc).
    I hope the cunt died horribly👎

    • “I’ve always been a socialist”
      Quote, Max Clifford.
      (You could tell by the Rolls Royce, big fuckoff house and pots of cash).
      No loss to the world…

      • No doubt Clifford was horrible cunt CF.

        And the Cuomo case. One of the latest women has accused him of serious groping.
        But another one (after that I mean) has accused him of inappropriate flirting and…wait for it…kissing her hand.
        It’s that lumped together with the groping one that I find problematic.

        No doubt Cuomo is horrible cunt as well.

  5. One of the biggest issues with this is the cops obsession with a good old celebrity nick. Both here and in the US, they love it. Here in the UK we also have the CPS turning a blind eye to lack of evidence so as not to upset the wimminz.
    For every Max Clifford there’s a dozen Jim Davidson’s having their lives fucked up by spiteful, money grabbing tarts, glory hunting cops and a politically correct legal system.
    When this filters down to the average man in the street, we’re all liable to have our collars felt.

  6. We have really reached the thin end of the wedge. After the outstanding performances of the faux outraged harpies on Clapham Common (I nearly wrote “herpes”) any woman now will only have to SAY she has been sexually assaulted and she will, ipso-facto be believed. I pity any jury finding a man not guilty of rape because some ugly tart like AnalEase Dodds says she has been.

    It will be more interesting to see who can come up with the most bizarre charges – Jess Phillips gang-banged by Owen Jones, Chris Bryant, Ben Bradshaw and Lord Mandelson. We all know they are innocent (they will be too busy, watching or taking part in “Buggery In The Bathroom”,) but I dare any jury or QC daring to upset Battleaxe Jess

  7. The first time I saw my wife I walked up to her, very drunk and informed her “I wonna fuuck yeerr. Twenty years later…………

  8. If you don’t want me treat you like a sex object, stop drawing attention to your tits by putting them on display.

    Like it or lump it, fit women do this (perhaps subconsciously) to attract a mate. And yes, they like the attention as long as it’s not ‘grabby’ and vulgar. End of.

    Nature 1 Bullshit 0

  9. Harassment, sexual or otherwise, doesn’t require a physical element, doh! Most sexual harassment is conducted verbally, i.e. psychologically. It’s not fucking rocket science.

      • It is if the other doesn’t want it. Not everyone can absolve themselves with a few Hail Marys. Not in the real world anyway.

      • Miles. Banter can be harassment, depends on whether it’s meant innocently or not. Flirting is not harassment, unless it’s aggressive and unreciprocated. Surprised you needed to ask. Or am I?

    • Rtc

      Mate of mine used to walk up to ladies in nightclubs and say “Want to get out of here and fuck?”

      He was a good looking lad. Sometimes he’d get slapped. Or a drink poured on his head. Or turfed out by bouncers. Or (once) get into a fight with an angry boyfriend he didn’t realise she had. If a lass wasn’t interested he’d just walk away and forget it.

      But you know what…quite a lot of ladies would go off with him. Most weekends, in fact.

      Not being a dick here, I agree with most of your posts, just wondered if you’d class that as sexual harassment?

      Would chatting a bird up be the same thing?

      I don’t think it’s harassment until the lady makes it very clear that she isn’t interested and you carry it on.

      I’d be careful with verbal stuff being made illegal as the cunts in charge always abuse this sort of legislation. Ok, chasing a woman down the street shouting ‘Show us your tits!” would be harassment in my book, but chatting a bird up should never constitute that, unless she made it clear to stop trying it on. And if you’re a woman’s boss, the rules are a bit different, I get that, but some women do try it on with bosses too, for obvious reasons.

      Older women in the offices I worked in as a young man used to grab my arse, rub their fingers through my hair and start massaging me quite often. I just laughed it off.

      But maybe I should claim compo, the abusers they are?

      • Older women in the offices I worked in as a young man used to grab my arse, rub their fingers through my hair and start massaging me quite often. I just laughed it off.

        But maybe I should claim compo, the abusers they are?

        This^

      • No CB, I wouldn’t count your nightclub example as harassment, unless your mate was persistent in the face of rejection.

        And certainly wouldn’t count chatting up a bird as harassment. Depends on how it’s done, of course.

        In fact I find nothing to disagree with in your post.

      • @GJ

        ‘It is if the other doesn’t want it’

        But that’s the thing about flirting. You don’t know initially if she wants it. You are ‘flirting’ with the idea when you flirt with her.
        Of course then if she makes herself plain she doesn’t want to know and you continue…but still does that constituency harassment? Where the police become involved? Annoying certainly but a police matter?

      • Miles, there are different levels of flirting, and you generally start at the most innocuous, and if it is reciprocated, then maybe take it up a level. If not, you can apologise if necessary, and leave it at that, with minimum harm done. And, there is a massive difference to chatting someone up in a nightclub, an environment where it’s expected, to a workplace, where it does happen, but is rarely condoned.
        Make sure you have a condom handy if you get lucky though.🙂

  10. One of the allegations against Salmond was that he had stripped of to his no doubt soiled underpants and pinned a woman to a bed. Against her will.
    Imagine if that was your wife? Your daughter? If it had been true, the fat little cunt should have had the shit kicked out of him.
    The smutty banter is fine if both parties are enjoying it. Sometimes it’s flirting, sometimes it’s just fun and nonsense to get through the working day. I worked in manufacturing, over 400 men and women in one building, from shop floor to boardroom, and I don’t know if it’s the same these days, but it was rife with sexual innuendo. But, you wouldn’t do it to someone if they were shy or uncomfortable about it. That would be being a creepy cunt, and deserving of a slap.

    • Hard to believe he could find a woman in Scotland sufficiently attractive to be worth the effort.

  11. Men all over the world should unite and fuck these hateful bovine crabs over.
    Car won’t start? Mechanics should refuse to help. Electrics gone? No spark is coming, tough shit. But.. But the sink is blocked? Partridge type shrug and that’s all you’re getting. And another Hitler turns up? Fight him yourselves.

    If these harpies can do without men so much. let’s take them at their word. Let’s not catch another mouse or spider for these ungrateful cunts again.

    • LOL I came home once to find my first husband sitting on the landing top step, what, why are you not coming down I asked, no there’s a massive spider on the step i saw it run…took me ages to find the thing it was that small…and he had a commendation for bravery as a young fireman

  12. Its like ‘bullying’ in the workplace. Priti Patel was supposed to be a bully.
    Ffs.

    And we watch Ramsey shouting swearing at some newbie and he is lauded.

  13. Innuendo – that’s the answer because then nothing can be proven. For example, before she became a politician Diane Abbott went to Hollywood to work in comedy – she was very big in Fatty Arbuckle’s shorts….

  14. Many years ago in my first senior position I was showing the Marks & Spencer technologist a packing line in the factory. The female line leader had hold of my arse, out of sight of the techno, while I was explaining the process to him. Funny and typical of factory life at the time, 1980 ish. The piss was taken out of me for a while after that. Life was good.
    I wonder if that would go on in these fucking miserable, puritan, po-faced times?

  15. Sirs:

    Andrew Cuomo is a major league jerk, at a minimum.

    But note how the lefties are coming after him for saying icky things to women.

    Not for issuing an edict that nursing homes take COVID-19 patients, lying about that, stonewalling on it, blaming everything on Trump, and then lying some more.

    Not to mention wallowing in worshipful press coverage, and writing a book on leadership in a crisis (and pocketing a nice chunk of change for his efforts).

    If and when Cuomo goes down, it will be for the icky stuff. Not the thousands of unnecessary deaths.

    Is a wanker worse than a cunt? Can someone be both?

    • Oh he loved the press coverage. A detailed report of what he was doing about the pandemic it seemed every night. Sat in his ‘controller’ chair.
      He loved/ gobbled up all the coverage.
      Now not so much.

  16. I remember being at a night club with a few mates and a ginger bird with big norks was wearing some sort of push-up ensemble, her enormous tits spilling and jostling everywhere. It drew our attention but none of us said anything.
    About ten minutes later we’d sat down with our drinks and one of our mutual ‘friends’ decides to play the errand boy/shit-stirrer and tells us ‘my friend (the redhead with the spilling jugs) wants to know why those three weirdos were starting at her… and would they like to meet her boyfriend’.
    The smug cunt was almost laughing as he said it.
    Being a bit of a big unit and now livid, i said, ‘send him over’.
    Nothing happened. I was ready to explain exactly why three weirdos might be looking at his girlfriend.

    Fucking student wankers.

  17. For the short time I worked in an office, I used to love going to office parties.
    I really used to join in the spirit of things as I love dancing.
    When the DJ played ‘TheTwist’, I used to twist, when they played ‘The Hustle’, I hustled.
    When ‘Come on Eileen’ was played, the fuckers threw me out on the street.
    Office parties are no longer the same. You can’t have a fuckin’ good time any more.

  18. Max Clifford used to ring up those “actresses” pretending to be Charles Bronson and ask if it was true he had a tiny penis – at least he was creative.

  19. The protesting thing is not helping the cause for these silly bitckes, as usual take it to far and people stop giving a shit.
    Same as BLM, Floyd’s, St Gretta Thumberg blocking cities traffic and causing 100 times the emissions, , Millionair Black footballers demanding free school dinners, sad Dad’s climbing on museums dressed as batman, dirty beard wierdys paddling rubber dinghies in front of oil tankers, slebs who come out of the woodwork what there is any disaster hoping and praying for a publicity opportunity, filthy lezzo,s outside army camps.
    Be it right or wrong the way to go about these protests is to gain sympathy for the cause and not to devide opinion so much, or inconvenience the very people you need on your side to the point were they no longer give a flying fuck about you and your cause.
    Counter productive is the term and they all seem to get there in about 4 or 5 days…

  20. Usual bollox from rug munchers who wish they had bollox…instead of hairy bearded cunts in dresses who wish they had a cunt…luckily none of these fuck wipes will breed so their fucked up genes won’t get passed on

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