Working from Home Costs

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The cost of working from home is a cunt.

The work from home (WFH) option has been a no-no for a very long time. At least it has in IT circles. Management seem to think that if they can’t actually see you at your desk, then you’re not doing your job. Odd that they don’t seem to trust the very same people they themselves hired. Some companies have used occasional WFH as a perk or a no-cost-to-them benefit for some of their employees. Seriously. Other companies have used a WFH policy as a means to depress salaries. The logic seems to be eliminating a commute means employees are more willing to work for less and accept non-tangible benefits as part of their overall compensation. Fact is, commuting or not doesn’t change the value of someone’s work or output. Furthermore, any ‘benefit’ derived from not commuting is directly proportional to the employee’s distance from their place of work. As such, the ‘benefit’ cannot be applied uniformly and is therefore unfair and discriminatory.

The curse of the ‘Rona has proved companies can survive with a remote workforce and the remote workforce does in fact continue to do its job. Who would have thunk it? Onsite office space for every employee may well be a thing of the past. Consider the cost savings for the employer. The elimination or reduction of:

* office space rent
* office furniture
* office heating/cooling
* other building utility costs for lighting, water, sewage, drainage, etc.
* onsite subsidised catering, free tea/coffee, etc.
* various insurances
* general building/grounds maintenance costs like cleaning, landscaping, etc.

At the same time, you’re at home doing your job, possibly using a company laptop. Who’s paying for your increased usage of electricity, internet, heating/cooling, stationery supplies, additional equipment like external screens, printers, scanners, etc.? You are. Anyone expensing this back to their employer? No, didn’t think so. Anyone seen a nice bonus or salary increase to reflect your additional costs and the employer’s cost reductions ? No, didn’t think so.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/mps-given-an-extra-10000-to-work-from-home/09/04/

Odd that. Discuss.

Nominated by: Imitation Yank

28 thoughts on “Working from Home Costs”

  1. Simple fact is, people do not work as well or as much when working from home.

    I once ran a service desk with twelve people and when a couple of them decided it was WFH time you did not get anything like the same amount of work out of them.

    The other thing to remember? if you can work from your grotty hovel then Survinder, Gopal or Pavel can do the same job from thousands of miles away for far less money. If you think the bean counters, shareholders give a flying fuck about “the third world is behind us technically” then you need to knock that shit out of your head….it’s all about money.

    • Both the wife and daughter working from home for months.
      Theyve saved quite a bit of money.
      Not driving too and from work, parking, lunch, coffee etc.
      Dont see how politicians are claiming more expenses for it?
      Id be nervous, as stated, if you can do a job from home whats to stop some 3rd world cunt doing your job for partial wages?

      • I’m self employed after many many years of the office grind, I’m sure my book keeper puts something down for home costs and certainly accurate mileage and receipts are always required…..it takes some doing but you have to force yourself into the admin.

      • Spanky@
        Im self employed, ive no office skills or anything,
        I do my bookwork by text.
        For every expense, income, etc
        I text it and its compiled for my taxes.
        I have a one off payment to file my taxes.
        Shocked how much some of the other lads in the same business was paying accountants!

      • That is interesting MNC, I assume it’s cash based accounting which I have heard of but never looked at how it works. Without giving any personal information who receives and collates the texts.

      • Its all looked at by a accountant who checks and files it Sicky.
        Its a idea that ive now seen being offered on Tv adverts.

  2. Claim tax relief if your cunt of an employer does not pay reasonable expenses for working from home.

    Or go one better, if you are asked by an employer to work from home you now have a temporary workplace which you can claim daily milage allowance based on the distance from your regular place of work to your temporary place of work in the morning and back to your regular place of work at the end of the day.

    If you let your employer have you incur costs to work for them that makes you the cunt in my eyes.

  3. ive always thought that WFH types were just lazy cunts who wouldn’t know a good days graft if it killed them.
    Plus i know a friend of a friend who gets paid silly money just for sitting on his lazy fucking arse for most of the day and plays his xbox.
    Cunt
    ……ohhh and he’s a skiing cunt to boot

  5. Working from home in theory sounds cost effective, but in reality most workers are bone idle cunts who would be on benefits if it payed better, at least dragging their sorry carcasses to work means their productivity can be analysed, bunch of lazy cunts!!!

    P.S
    If you are working from home, when the 30s style depression/recession hits, you’ll be first to be made “redundant”

  6. Hi Admin, off topic. I still can’t access this site via my WiFi router since yesterday’s issues. Any suggestions?

    (If you can access other sites from your router then it might be a DNS issue (in other words your router cannot resolve the user-friendly website name “is-a-cunt.com”. Or the router could be blocking it as its an unsecure connection (firewall possibly). You could try resetting (power off and on) your router, which will clear out old DNS cache entries. – DA)

    • Another question for Admin:

      Was the “log in required to access site” message yesterday deliberate or a glitch. If deliberate it doesn’t seem to be blocking me today😊

  7. Working from home is not as productive as being in the office.

    There may be exceptions, but i’m sure they are limited.

    This is proven by recent visits to my Granddaughters house,- where she is allegedly supposed to be ‘working’ from home.

    She endlessly pisses about with this posh coffee machine downstairs, frothing milk up and generally fannying about with this contraption. Then the cup, pot and other paraphernalia has to be transported upstairs on a tray.
    Then she’s gassing away to me downstairs, I said “I better let you get back to your work”.
    “No, it’s ok i’m on my break, I’ve managed to get out of one meeting” she says.
    She had had a hour + lunch, had time to put all that lycra stuff on, and went out running with the dog.
    On Monday afternoon she was drinking gin and tonic in the kitchen.
    All this whilst supposedly working.

    I’m sure she isn’t the only one up to such capers.

    When I was her age I was stood at a lathe for 11 hours. No slipping away for a quick doss or toss off. We even had a tea lady who came round with a trolley, to ensure production wasn’t disrupted. Half hour sat at my machine to eat lunch, and that was it!
    Wages were dependant on how many quality finished workpieces were stacked in your basket at the end of the day.

    Working from home is, and will be continually abused. Get back in the office, get your heads down, and do some work!

    No wonder this country is falling to pieces.

  8. When working from home, employers don’t stipulate which home. I’d choose either Eva Mendez or Emilia Clarke’s house.
    😀

  9. As mentioned-more and more companies will outsource to foreign, remote call centres or employees, to save money.
    Millions of cunts are “dead-men-walking” and don’t even know it☹️

    Cunts

  10. I’ve been self-employed for best part of 20 years and so have got used to working from home. Don’t work, no money coming in , soon motivates you.
    Sometimes miss the banter of a work place, though I imagine that’s all but disappeared with all the woke wankers who are easily offended.
    I generally like it. Been more stressful with the kids home schooling though.

  11. Hate working at home. The missus treats it like i’m on holiday and wont leave me alone. Cant process the fact that a year ago I wouldn’t have been here at 11am to take her to xyz shop. I end up working ad hoc hours and going til 8pm etc due to interruptions. Either that or having a domestic every day because ‘i havent been paying her attention’ even though i should be off limits at the office.

    Have saved a bit of money on fuel and lunches etc but the ball and chain has offset that with internet shopping.

    Bottom line is, it is bad fucking news if employers realise they can remotely outsource a job at minimal effect. Because, there are millions of indians willing to work through the night if it means being available in the day here and they will do the job for a quid a day.

    Everyone needs to wake up and smell the coffee, stop justifying the governments overeaction to a bit of flu and get back to fucking work while the chance is still there. The worst part is the economy, firms and people have lost their livelihoods for quite little reason tbh.

    I cant believe the kind of simple mindedness of the british public in being brainwashed through this virus. The whole lockdown thing was created to protect government interests in its own institution, the NHS. Captain Tom, clap the heroes. Its trying to evoke the war spirit, all hands to the pump. All i know is this – I pay £400 NI each month. BUPA quoted me £65 for dogs bollocks insurance package which i am taking out on next payday. They are detracting from the fact that this supposedly first rate health service with its mammoth funding is actually a pile of shit that cant cope with a bit of flu in a country with a relatively small population. Third world countries with bigger populations have done better than the NHS. Theyve got people chanting even ‘stay home save lives protect the nhs….. hands face space’.

    I never clapped the NHS because I think they are shite. Take 2 months to give me an appointment, lost my dads samples twice in the flu bollocks, turned out he has bowel cancer but luckily will be okay. Wonder how many wont. Those critical care doctors making a dance tiktok did it for me. And low and behold, the ingrates say ‘dont clap us pay us’ and scream like babies when they didnt get an exponential payrise in the budget.

    My mate is driving round a prius owned by the NHS. They offered it to his mum as a company car – she didnt need it but took it and insured him on it. Its his car now. The NHS doesnt need more money it needs to stop spaffing money up the wall and paying for dead weight in Procurement and non skilled positions.

    I cant believe that no one drawers parallels between being asked for your ID and fined by police and the idea of wristbands or vaccination passports, and the restriction of movement in Nazi occupied europe and star of david armbands.

    I cant believe that people share stories on facebook of how flu is ‘down 95%’ this year because of lockdowns and facecoverings, then go fucking mentally triggered when you comment and say ‘yes because covid is the flu but everyone wants to rebrand it as a disease’.

    Seriously? Is this like ebola or smallpox or TB? No its a flu. Sorry to say, but the Flu Jab programme has banked up a load of old biddies etc over the last 5 years. Without flu jabs, we’d probably have seen these covid deaths spread out over several years previously as other flu deaths.

    The covid ‘vaccine’ is a flu jab, rebranded. ‘Long covid’ is ME or CFS, rebranded. I dont deny covid exists but its just a flu, albeit a new one with little immunity. But 47000 people died in the 2017 flu season and no one sniffed. Not insignificant number is it? Its like the millenium bug all over. If no one hyped it it never would have been a thing. Fuck all really happened when the computer systems hit zeros, they just ticked on.

    Locked in our houses whilst people jet in from brazil etc. Or like my sister, living in tier 3, Not allowed to visit a coffee shop in tier 2 for a drink, but allowed to go and work behind the counter all day in her job? (True story)

    I hate being treated like i’m stupid. Like if im not locked in my house at this time i will go out of my way to visit every possible person and elderly vulnerable relative?

  12. Am self-employed in IT, and most of my working week is spent WfH – more so since the pandemic kicked in.

    As others on here have said, being SE means you have to stand on your own two feet as you don’t have an employer to turn to, and the government don’t seem to give two shits either in terms of Covid/furlough support.

    I don’t mind WfH because I can set my own hours, and keep in touch with my customers via VCC or RD. But there are instances when going to a customer site and conversing with people is an absolutely godsend!

    In terms of costs – well its like most things, what you use on home electric, gas, water, food etc, is balanced by savings on commuting, along with not having to buy snacks and lunches as you normally would if you were working in a office/factory.

    Moreover, its not just about money – WfH does offer other freedoms/benefits over working in a office, not least having to put up with mardy/gossipy cunts. And then there’s the extra bonus of being able to have an extra’s kip of a morning that would have been used to get ready for work.

    It will be interesting what will happen once lockdowns are finally lifted and people have to go back to work. There will be lots of resistance no doubt, coupled with employers thinking that actually “why am I paying some cunt £40k to work from home when I can get some cunt from Eastern Europe to do exactly the same thing, but for £15k instead!”

    The Great Reset isn’t too far away now. Get ready because a lot of people are in for a big fucking shock over the next 12 months that will make the last 12 months seem like a picnic!

    • That schwaab bloke has already posed moving loads of jobs to the third world as a ‘social responsibility’. Sure the likes of tesla and apple will be paying top dollar to workers there too. Oh, wait….

  13. Wait until the government taxes you for “working from home”. Maybe its time for the government to do much less. Just imagine, a hundred years ago when most peoples only contact with the state was the post office.

  14. A few comments on here which deserve a response.

    It’s true there are some people who think a WFH day is effectively a day off and their productivity suffers as a result. This is very easy to manage. First, don’t employ lazy fuckers – that’s a failing of management. Second, manage people on a goal or deliverable basis. If they’re not achieving certain goals or deliverables, then they’re slacking off and should be fired. It’s simple really.

    It is absolutely not universally true that working from home means fucking about. I have worked hard for 3 decades to reach the position I have in my industry. That’s not been achieved by sitting on my arse, picking my nose and watching telly when I should have been logged in and doing my job. When I work from home, I tend to work longer hours than if I had to attend an office. Plus, the type of work I do often means I don’t get to down tools at 4:59 PM and space out. I often have to do things outside of core business hours as well as during the day. I don’t complain about it. It’s the nature of the role and I’ve always known that. An 8 hour day? Luxury!

    The point of the cunting was to first, highlight how employers have poured cold water on WFH for many years, believing their workforce would checkout and do nothing all day. The ‘Rona has proved that fear is unfounded. Second, now we are working from home, employers are taking advantage of the fact many of us are using our own equipment and resources and are not being compensated for it. At the same time, their own operating costs are going down so for the employer it’s a win-win. That’s being a cunt.

    As for the ‘you’re all be out of a job soon anyway because Gupta Patel will eat your lunch’. Don’t make me laugh. Yes, there has been a massive influx of Guptas into IT. Trouble is, your average Gupta is as thick as pig shit, lacks adequate communication skills and has the reasoning skills of an amoeba.

    Quick example which I’ve seen played out countless times….

    Program specification given to Gupta. Said Gupta has swallowed the programmer’s guide and can tell you what’s on page 80, paragraph 2, sentence 4. Should make a good programmer then, right? Wrong. It’s not in their culture to say no or argue their case or intelligently apply what they think they know. They’ll just do exactly what they’re given to do, even if it doesn’t make sense. Gupta writes the code exactly according to the spec, but the spec is ambiguous and misses an important detail or several. No matter, Gupta writes the code anyway. Testing reveals it’s shit and has to be re-done. A second attempt improves it, but it still doesn’t work as intended. Finally, the program is given to Steve to code and what-do-you-know? He writes it correctly first time? So Gupta’s cheaper, huh? Get a grip!

    Another time we had a mud slime Gupta on the team who was supposed to be a Systems Administrator. Long story short…we had many new systems to build out, tight deadlines and a ton of support work to do to keep the older infrastructure up and running. Where was Gupta when you needed him to do something? Praying. I kid thee nay. It pissed us all off because we constantly had to cover his work as well as our own. Imagine how much work would have been achieved if the whole team had been Guptas. Salary costs would have been lower, but then productivity would have been pretty poor. Like with most things in life, you get what you pay for.

    • I doesn’t matter a flying fuck what Gupta can or cannot do and his skills mean diddly squat….it’s the fact that he’s cheaper that matters.

      People who run most companies (not all, but most) are TOTALLY motivated by cost and return on the buck.

      I’ve seen it time and time again when someone is employed because of cost and when people say that person is shite the employers says “yeah, but he’s cheap”

      One of the companies I rely on for hardware support has, since the start of lockdown moved lots of it’s support to Malaysia….the service is now so scripted and useless I don’t call them but they had to because of their employees “isolating” or basically too scared to come into work.

  15. I am home based, got an office in the bedroom, claim for expenses I can legally claim for and do a lot of work directly from there, but as things expand I will soon need a business unit – things are getting a tad crowded!
    It costs me slightly more than when I was working for an employer but the 4 grand a year I save in rail season tickets, buying business attire and not constantly being hounded by some breathless swivel eyed do gooder demanding sponsorship or donations for some fkin ridiculous lefty good cause or other makes up the difference and then a bit. (Seriously, they are like a plague).
    I do not have the luxury of being paid to slack off or clocking off at 5PM, if I do not work I do not get an income, I do not pay the bills and I do not make profit.
    But I would still rather be the captain of my own ship than the deck cleaner on someone else’s.

  16. If you can do your job working from home some cunt in Bucharest can do it for half your salary and the company still gets the job done.

    Once Covid (sorry furlough) is over there are going to be two sets of cunts looking for employment when there is fuck all.

    I had a job at a call centre until Ranjid from Rangoon took it off me

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