Nuclear Strategy

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No they never went away did they. They never went away. We just forgot about them for a while. But now they’re back again, front and centre.

Like a woman it seems we cannot live with them and we cannot live without them.

Well we can live with them but it’s MAD. Mutually Assured Destruction. But is MAD a sane military policy?

I mean they cannot be used because its MAD.-The catastrophe too great. But we cannot get rid of them because that would leave our side defenceless.

That’s the dilemma. That is what I am really cunting. The ‘Catch 22’ situation that we are in.

But you know by the Law of Probability over time they will be used. If we keep them eventually they will be used. So (the argument goes) we have to Unilaterally Disarm. It is our moral duty to do this.

But straight away you think realistically that is so reckless if the other side doesn’t give theirs up.

Round and round it goes…see.

Really what we have to do is get rid of ‘the other side’ so that they become redundant. But once again is that realistic given human nature?

There has been much talk of using ‘tactical nuclear weapons’ in this present conflict. But if you read the literature that is another strategic ‘rabbit hole’ of contradictory thinking.

For If they drop a tactical nuclear bomb do we respond in kind ourselves? Or do we respond with conventional weapons? But that would show weakness on our part.

Wouldn’t it?

But If we respond with a nuclear bomb the escalation to oblivion starts.

Doesn’t it?

My head hurts…

Nominated by: Miles Plastic

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185 thoughts on “Nuclear Strategy”

  1. Spot on MP.

    The genie is out of the bottle.

    Disarmament could never happen..imagine verification issues?

    Every country would sneak some away,just in case..

    It’s likely the reason they may never be used deliberately is the MAD doctrine…even the most demented dictator will know the power of nukes and the fact nobody can hide from them…or win in such an exchange.

    Fingers crossed.

    • But what to do about a demented cunt (Putin) who fears non-nuclear destruction? “No Russia, no world” as the fucker states.

      Bullet to the back of the head is the obvious call, but who is going to deliver it, they are all as barking as he is.

  2. Unilateral disarmament is my choice. Drop them all in an area which won’t be missed, like France, with a couple spared for Downing Street and Whitehall.

  3. Well at least it would shut up the global warming nutters.

    Interesting nom Miles, I’m thinking does it make a difference of who is in charge of the countries that possess nuclear weapons? Would Trump be more likely to nuke Russia or China than Biden? Richi Sunak or Boris against God forbid Starmer? China and North Korea are autocracies – would it matter who was in charge and Macron has recently said he wouldn’t?

    • What’s just as intriguing is the strange modern way of thinking that technology can solve any difficulty.

      Not hard to imagine the top brass persuading Biddy Biden that his state of the art bunker will allow him and important chums to “wait out” global or regional devastation to emerge after a decade in triumph.

      The daft cunts.

      • Thank heavens that the U.S has a ‘nuclear football’ with loads of launch codes and fail/safe options otherwise Sleepy Joe would be nuking the Chinese after falling in the shower trying to call his nurse.

      • Jelly head joe can’t find his way off a stage or out of his own garden..
        So I think we maybe safe LL..

    • we do need a war to sort out all this mess with gimmegrants, woke shit, and bummerism, send those fuckers first as cannon fodder, that would be a good start, with James o Brien and magic grandpa at the front of the queue

  4. Missed opportunity in the late 1940s. When the West had nukes and the Russians had not we should have bombed them back into the stone age and left them there.

    • Calm down Miles, stop flapping.
      Nobody Is gonna do shit.

      Especially that little disco dancer in the Kremlin.

      You have them as a deterrent.
      You use them?
      Missile defense systems are geared that everybody gets some.

      No one dodges the reaper.
      And every one gets a Ready Break glow.

      He’s all rubber underpants and no fur hat Vlad.
      Just bullshitting.

      Although could be wrong and all life on earth is wiped out.
      In which case your man upstairs is going to be busy.

      • I wonder if he (God is a man) will have an effective processing centre to let in the right sort of chap and expel the riffraff, billions all at one go could be overwhelming, maybe Miles has the answer 😂

      • It’s the rapture, half the religious fucks can’t wait for it, so I imagine their god cunt will have enough deckchairs for them.

      • Cockroaches will survive a nuclear holocaust…I wonder what else will scramble out from the rubble

      • My enormous wine-cellar is lined with Bacofoil and blocks of lard…I shall emerge like a malevolent toad from hibernation to view the smouldering wreckage of The Incomers’ Barratt-boxes….and shoot any survivors,naturally.

    • Quite right, arfur. Could’ve got rid of the Rinkydinks as well. I’m sure someone else would.ve mass-produced flipflops and those plastic toys that kids get in their mcdonalds meals without shutting the world down for 2 years by eating live animals…………..

    • That’s what General Patton wanted to do. He felt America and Britain had fought the wrong enemy. He got wacked, of course, if you look into how he died, official story if ridiculous and the movie, great though it is, also has a ridiculous death scene.

      • I’m not in agreement with Patton, just mentioning his stance on Russia in 1945, he wanted a square-off not a full-on war. It was a monumentally fucked up time, unprecedented in all of human history. Letting Russia get nukes was one of the great errors of all time, just as them being developed in the first place was. Old fashioned warfare of battalions squaring off against against other, a brief melee, then surrender is the way. Modern warfare is just insane, no one ever “wins” it just destroys the infrastructure, water, air and babies. No baby died from an aimed, direct hit in a war until 1914.

        It’s time for Zelenskyy to surrender. It’s been that way for months. I kind of get why he doesn’t. He’s being supplied by an insane regime Washington, by a guy who can’t speak, shits his pants, has a crackhead son who partied and parlayed deals in Ukraine. It’s a shit-show. Pushing ahead means a dark, dark time for humanity and no one these days in the west has the fortitude for such times.

  6. It was John von Neumann who came up with MAD, applying game theory to nuclear war.

    Einstein wasn’t keen on him, perhaps because he may have been more intelligent than Einstein, or because he kept the ‘von’ in his name.

    Jacob Bronowski said ‘Johnny’ was the cleverest person he had ever encountered, even if he wanted to drop the atom bomb on Russia before they’d developed the bomb, to avert the greater destruction of MAD.

      • I reckon Tesla knew how to weapons that makes nukes look like spud-guns. But he was a peaceful man. Knew about the Firament, knew Earth wasn’t a globe hurtling through space.

      • You reckin? Where’s your evidence?
        Einstein, Fermi, Pauli, von Neumann and Kurt Gődel make Tesla look like Harvey Price.

    • I suspect he purloined the works of a far cleverer man,aka-Nikola Tesla who backed out of the ‘Philadelphia-Experiment’ with Neumann when he gleaned it’s true purpose,ie the type of diabolism being cooked up chez CERN.

  7. If the button is ever pushed hopefully I can shelter behind a load of wokes,transwierdos and incomers there are now so many they would make an effective shield.

  8. Nothing new about the talk of using battlefield nukes, the ‘exchange’ has been muted before in a ‘European Theatre’, by the Yanks.
    MAD is fine as long as the balance is maintained, it seems to work.

  9. With all this Net Zero bollocks and The Great Reset 2050, perhaps dropping a few nukes now might just hurry things along.

    Perhaps WEF is secretly hoping for nuclar Armageddon so soon after trying to get rid of us via the Covid, Cost of Living, Energy and the Ukraine crisis. Next step: blow the West a way once and for all and start over.

    Of course BLM (should any survive) will still regard Armageddon as inherently and systematically racist!

    • It is quite amusingly ironic that in the anti-oil, deep ecology age, the liberals and global warming politicians are pushing for a world war, and boy do those world wars pollute the Earth!

  10. MAD is just like me and you both having a gun. Peace through strength and mutual respect for what the other can do. Human beings are NOT basically good and human nature must be kept in check. Each nation should maintain the strongest deterrence it can against aggression. Ukraine gave up its nukes. Why? Corruption. Now look at what happened.
    Always be someone who no one else will dare fuck with.

  11. Putin is MAD.
    Biden is senile
    Fuck knows where Sunak sits.
    I hope that NATO is targetting Russia and is ready to go if the MADman does as he threatens.

    • I read somewhere that an anagram of Rishi Sunak is Hi Risk Anus so I’d guess he’d probably push the red button then fuck off back to India!

    • Putin is MAD.
      No he isn’t, he knows exactly what he’s doing, anyone here seriously think Boris, May, Poopy Joe or Sucknak or any other western leader could sustain a 3 hour TV interview/Q & A session unscripted?

      Biden is senile
      That’s a demonstrable fact

      Fuck knows where Sunak sits.
      On Goldman Sachs middle finger

      I hope that NATO is targetting Russia and is ready to go if the MADman does as he threatens.
      NATO is not ‘ready to go’. It could NOT deploy an effective land army in a European conflict. Neither have I heard Putin threaten first use. Nor does he need to, he’s doing the job perfectly well with conventional weaponry with Bahkmut about to get smeared as the newly mobilised troops are now arriving at forward positions. Russia’s nuclear engagement doctrine is online.

      • Exactly, give Putin his due, he doesn’t hide from the world, speaks at length and speaks clearly. He said some mad shit last week, but he seems calm, focused, determined. Everyone else on the Pyramid of Power are weak and flail about, gibber exclusively in word-salads.

        Pyramid of Power sounds like a great game-show, doesn’t it?! LOL! 🙂

    • Putin isn’t mad in the slightest that’s an absurdity based on lack of bigger-picture brainwashing that sadly seems to have worked.The West-UN and NATO,to say nothing of the rabid attack dog Neo-Cons are wagging the American military dog,ushering us to inevitable doom.Russia has been stitched up and threatened by these Khazars for decades and is being goaded into a response which will happen.

      You need to do some research old chap.Truss and co have all but painted a giant bullseye on UK who probably had a hand (SBS) in blowing up the Nordstream pipes.”It’s done” announces Truss to Blinken via her Russian hacked phone-chat with Blinken.

      • I just don’t buy into the whole, “these are the bad guys” narratives put out by our government and the Americans. I hate Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Kremlin gremlins. But I’m a big fan of Russian people, their writers like Tolstoy, Gogol, filmmakers like Eisenstein, Tarkovsky, Bondarchuk.

        I’ve been against this war from the start, you can check the Ukraine perma-thread.

      • Oh look… another one’s crawled out of the woodwork.

        Must be be Halloween tonight!

      • More absolute bollocks.
        Funny how with them if you’re not pro Putin, then you’re pro war.
        Clueless.

      • What’s your EXACT position on this war, Gutstick? Should the British government enter a war with Russia? They already have when they sabotaged the Nordstream Pipeline.

        I’m not putting words in your mouth, you don’t put words in mine. Just lay it out for us all, then we won’t be so confused by what your position is. Mine is clear and has been from the start. I mocked Putin at the start, then I mocked Zelenskyy as events unfolded. I will continue to mock Piano Penis and Poopy Pants in Washington. And whoever else feel like mocking.
        That’s the point of this site, after all.

      • I have stated my opinion a few times on the Ukraine thread but you seem to be unable to understand. Either that or you’re goading me again.
        Whatever.

      • Christ on an e-scooter Gordon!

        If you don’t know what Gutstick’s EXACT position on the war is by now, you NEVER will. 🙄

      • Disappointing response, brother. Give it another go. It would help avoid any future confusion and conflict.

        Peace. 🙂

      • A lot of our chums here don’t look at the Ukraine thread. They don’t know what Gutstick’s position on the war is. Most people here hate the whole fucking fiasco, Putin, Zelenskyy, Biden and our government has got we Brits into. I know I do. I hate the whole lot of them. But Putin is playing the game 10,000% better than his opponents.

        I just don’t get how anyone can be pro-war, pro-Zelenskyy, pro-Washington at this point.

        Peace. 🙂

      • I’m struggling a tad technically,responding to posters inadvertently but coming in on different posts due to low computer ability.I guess @ whoever covers this?

      • Yes, just use @ or just a good old-fashioned: Dear, John… 🙂

        I just think at this point, we should all make clear what our views on the war is. I just find it impossible to feel sympathy with any of the governments. I will mock them.

      • Putin apparently talking for hours unscripted is somehow an achievement? Fuck me, do you actually listen to anything he says? I could talk for hours too if I was just making up bollocks as I went along.

        You’ve no idea what game is being played or who is doing it better. Putin is fucking hated by his soldiers, and rightly so.

      • What’s your position then LC?
        I say we need to stand full square behind Zelensky and the Ukrainian people in their resistance to Putin’s barbaric invasion and land grab of Ukrainian sovereign territory.
        Btw, if only Ukraine hadn’t given up their nukes in exchange for Russia’s (and the UK’s and USA’s) guarantee of Ukrainian territorial integrity in 1994…
        Moral of the story: hang on to your nukes!

  12. MAD is ok by me.
    If I’m going to be nuked, I shall vaporise happily in the knowledge that the bastard who did it will be joining me.
    It is this threat that hopefully will keep me safe.

    It’s about time someone responded to the cunt Putin’s threats and made some threats of our own. Slap the little cunt back into place. If the rest of Russia think oblivion is on the horizon, maybe someone will dish out the same as Leon Trotsky got.

  13. As has been said, the biggest problem in getting rid of them is verification. And then checking the other side hasn’t made a few after the event. Very tricky I’d imagine

  14. That’s what makes me crease about these climate change bellends and BLM fuckcunts. They are whining on about hot weather, petrol, or Chicken Floyd George. When I van still has a thousand nukes up our arse. Yet they don’t seem to care about that. At least in the 80s CND did a good job at protesting at something that was worth protesting about. These cunts these days get ‘offended’ about Uncle Bens fucking rice, yet they say nothing about the nuclear threat. Fucking knobheads.

    • We should never get rid of our nuclear weapons.

      They’ll always be twats like Putin.

      They should be oiled and polished daily to keep them tiptop.

      Get Graeme Norton to do it,
      He’d like that.

      And we should do tests like North Korea do,
      Keep others on their toes,
      Maybe a few tests and invest in more silos?
      Put one in Dover!

      Maybe a few drunken phonecalls to Vlad at 3am saying your going to press the button?
      Give him something to worry about apart from getting some teenage soldier pregnant…

    • Teenage boys cannot get pregnant! How could anyone on this site hold such transphobic beliefs. We are descending back to the coloured ages

  15. SAGE will probably get involved after the UK has been suitably bombed out of existence apart from some VIPs and Establishment gits.

    Keep your distance
    wear a mask
    wash your hands
    get jabbed
    stay indoors
    sign up to Track and Trace Part 2

  16. There’ll never be full-scale nuclear war….There would be nothing left for The Shadowy Cabal ,who are behind everything, to look at through their telescopes as they sit smugly on the planet,Mars…which,interestingly enough,is the planet where our lizard-overlords/shadowy cabal originally came from…before they destroyed it in a nuclear war and came to Earth…obviously now that the endgame is afoot,they have gone back there until their Earthly dastardly plot unfolds…

    The Cunts.

    Wake up and get educated you mindless sheeple.

    • There is a statue of Blakey from “On the Buses” toppled in the dust on the Red Planet.

    • Business, commerce, retail is what life is all about now, the age of fighting existential wars is over. If we’re all at war, Amazon will go bust.

      Always liked the Bukowski poem, “Dinosauria, We” on the end of the world…

      (5 minutes)
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDiLfQUBnyA&ab_channel=Alf

      “These carefully mad wars,” always struck a chord with me. All the wars from the past 200 or so years have been planned well in advance, the propaganda is laid out, the hysteria begins, then the mad war begins…

    • More likely Saturn as the higher ups seem to revere the ‘Black-Sun’ strangely a cuboid pattern on it’s surface clearly visible up close with a lens.The black cube of Mecca…the ‘tiffilin’ black cubes adorning Rabbinical bonces,Kubriks allusion in ‘Space-Oddysey’…even the mortar-boards on graduates heads,all allude to this Saturnalic deity.

      • Yeah, the whole “black cube” imagery around the world is creepy and weird, not sure what make of it all. On a gut-level, I don’t like it as a symbol.

  17. Nuclear deterrence is based on bluff and keeping the other side guessing. That’s why Teressa May was right when she was asked by a naive SNP MP in Parliament if she would order the release of a Trident missile killing millions in the process. She quite rightly, and cooly, said “yes”. It was the only correct thing she ever said. Whether or not she really would is another matter. We don’t know – that’s the point. The PM’s instructions to our nuclear sub commanders are sealed only to be opened in the event of the destruction of the UK.

    • Guterres said-

      ‘Today, humanity is just one misunderstanding, one miscalculation away from nuclear annihilation’.

      • And he’s right. It’s happened before – in the Soviet Union I think, they once came close to an accidental nuclear launch on the USA. hopefully they have learned since then.

        The real worry for me though is nations like North Korea and Iran.

      • Just as well then, that we have such strong minded, intelligent and dutiful leaders in charge.
        Er, wait, hang on.
        Oh shit…

      • North Korea, Iran, and now Russia.
        At least the Soviets were relatively stable.
        Unlike Putin’s current kleptocratic gangster state.

      • “Unlike Putin’s current kleptocratic gangster state.”

        …and Ukraine isn’t? It’s even worse f.f.s.

      • Well they haven’t invaded anyone or threatened to start a nuclear war.
        Depends on your morals I suppose.
        And your grip on reality….

    • I had a brief tenure in the Territorial infantry years ago in a unit tasked with protecting American mobile NBC units across Europe.The CO of our regiment stated that Trident wasn’t in the gift of being launched independently by the UK,but needed the Pentagons own codes beforehand.Essentially the septics make a killing financially from the arrangement but the UK has no autonomy with it’s deployment.Nothing is as it appears.

      • This is not correct. The UK nuclear deterrent is completely independent and can be launched solely by the UK.The current UK Trident warheads can also be launched by a submarine commander with the support of his crew without any code being transmitted from the chain of command. No US Pentagon codes required.The British missiles are controlled through the Royal Navy chain of command all the way up to the Prime Minister. In reality the Prime Minister would make the launch decision.The UK’s Trident fleet relies purely on military discipline to prevent a launch.

      • I doubt the Pentagon has to give the Prime Minister permission to use ANY weapon. Who the fuck knows.
        Let’s hope we never find out.

      • Seeing King Tampon and Rishi Rich as war leaders in World War 3 is something I hope we never see, either! 😀

    • Being pro-Zelenskyy in spring was fair enough, but in winter?
      I reckon Zelenskyy and his creepy cronies will go down badly in history as will all “leaders” of the first quarter of the 21st century.

      Going to war with Russia in winter.
      A man named Napoleon tried that. Hitler tried it.
      Will a man named Rishi Sunak try it?
      Joe Biden. A man who insulted the Marines!
      Will he try it?

  18. War appears to me to be a total waste of time, money and blood if the objective is not the total annihilation of your opponent/s, the people and their land.

    Glass it over, pour encouragé les autrés.

    • But as a re-set option for banksters and assorted Saturnist/Satanist entities,with a side order of copious herd-thinning,you can see how it rolls for these Cabal freaks.See ww1 & 2 ?

      • Mr 707
        There was a time when I thought that WWII, or rather Britain’s involvement in it, was justified. Not now. Not at that moment, at least.

        I now don’t think ANY of our subsequent wars were justifiable nor inevitable.

        No way I’d fight for this wreck of a nation, nor encourage my sons to, to preserve ‘democracy’?

        Get to fck.

      • No, the last time Britain was justified in war was with Napoleon. WE should have been like Sweden in 1815 and sat out the madness of European and oriental wars for the past 200 years.

  19. My concern is a possible accidental launch of one of these things. I fear also that the Russians seriously believe that they might use a small one tactically. That is only likely to lead to escalation. Oh well, it’s a quick way of warming up… Seriously, I think someone in the Kremlin will d/w with Putin, and pull Russia back from the brink. I am sure the trained military understand the massive danger to the Motherland.

  20. Bring it on, humanity could do with a reset.
    Tho only shame is that it wasn’t a biological war, that only wiped out the humans and left the rest of life on earth to flourish.

      • Misanthropic nihilism isn’t for me. I want peace, no war, no genocide, no jungoism, no gung-ho romanticism of war. I want a world of fierce but non-violent competitiveness between nations, excellent trade deals, technology sharing.

        Most of all, I want to see people cheer the fuck up and enjoy life.
        The yawning grave awaits.

      • That doesn’t even make sense. Disneyland?

        You don’t actually have anything to say, so why bother coming here day after day? Must be depressingly exhausting. I have a ball here, you and Gutstick should change your approach and see the fun in all of this.

        Peace. 🙂

      • Pay him no mind, MJB.

        He can’t help it. He’s just projecting, as usual.

        Are we having fun yet Gordon?

        Sleep well, try not to roll of the edge of the Earth. 😉

      • So she’s real? Put her on! Hand her the keyboard! That would be fun! Not this geopolitics pish! 🙂

      • Grow up you tedious wee gimp.

        Happy now Gordon?

        (Keep it friendly, people. – Day Admin)

      • Wayhay!

        I reckon you live alone, though, you have the telltale marks of a man who lives alone going from your online patterns, comments, attitude. Not being personal, nasty, nothing wrong with having a fantasy wife/life. I mean, you guys get personal with me, have done from the start, and that’s fine, has no effect. I just want to see you defend Zelenskyy, Biden, Macron, Sunak over the coming months. I don’t defend Putin, he’s a mad cunt, possibly a bender of some sort, I’m not all that bothered. I just see that youse lot have painted yourselves into an unnecessary corner and everyone else is wandering free outside that wrongful room, outside the whole mental institute that is modern geopolitics with guys like Bush, Bath House Barry, Apollo Trump, Dementia Joe, Nasty Pelosi and so many others.

        I’m against this war, against Britain and America being involved in this war. I want a ceasefire until spring then peace talks. If you want World War 3 or something close to it, then state that, state your case clearly as I do and don’t make it You versus Gordon. Admin warned off that. Be witty, be funny, satirize Putin, that’s easy, or should be.

        Oh! What’s that tapping at the window? Bloody Bridget Bardot at the window! My girlfriend! Honest she is! 😉

        Take care, brother. 🙂

      • Mr LC,

        I don’t like mobbing up, never have, just thought I’d let you know I may not agree with all you say but believe you are perfectly entitled to say it and the discourse and subsequent thinking is better for it

        I reckon there’s a couple on here that are telling porkies, and others that have multiple screen names. Oh well.

        BTW, I don’t think the Earth is flat, probably, but I am far from convinced that it is revolving around its own axis, nor the Sun. Nor do I believe that the moon and sun is millions of miles away, nor the stars.

        Or that we went to the moon.

        Have a good one 👍

  21. Should have said more about the use of tactical nuclear weapons. See if Russia wants to threaten maybe they drop a small one in some in unpopulated area. But that’s no good but we’ve all seen a nuclear explosion.

    Maybe on the border of Ukraine and Russia (wherever that is now). But that might effect Russians.

    Or in kyiv. Now this is where it gets really difficult. Once again the ‘fallout’ might drift into other NATO countries.
    What do we do then?

    I think I know where we’re heading. The ‘dirty bomb’. A conventional bomb ‘laced’ with ‘radioactive material’. Could they get away with that?

    Putin has threatened so much now he has painted himself into a corner. He almost has to drop one now to keep his credibility.

    Or hes just the boy who cried ‘wolf’.

    • BBC Scotland: Here we are in Motherwell, a vast wasteland due to the nuclear…
      Jakey Jimmy: Hey mate, the bomb husnae dropped yet, ye cunt.

    • Precisely.The trusted ‘false-flag’ option that’s worked so well through history-Pearl Harbour,Tonkin,9/11.101 Airborne gathered on the Polish border as a homosexual,coke sniffing chicken swinger sends his people into the Russian sausage machine blender.US economy trillions in debt,what a glorious opportunity for the mother of re-sets.Give me fucking strength.

      • Pearl Harbor has to be the weirdest opening salvo in a war between two major powers ever. I’ve never understood what the Japanese objective was towards America in World War 2. They just drew them into the war, made them fight a brutal war of attrition down to tiny islands with hand-to-hand combat and they never stood a chance against America, were never going to gain anything. And they invaded China in 1937, Jesus Christ, were they insane? China can’t be conquered.

        Modern wars are completely stupid, nothing can really be gained by bombing the shit out of cities. It’s hard to imagine Alexander the Great flattening India, poisoning the water, air, having the people hat him and his people and him proclaiming, “IT IS OURS!”. What is yours – this wasteland that was once a high civilization of profound art and wisdom? LOL!

        America conquered 500,000 sq. miles of Mexico in 1948 after a brutal and unjust two-year war that no one today can justify. Mexico were no threat to America, they just disputed territory in Texas, newly incorporated into the Union on December 29, 1845. The American tactics in the war were savage, cruel, brutal. But little old Mexico never gave up until the very end.
        Mexico received, “compensation” of $18 million.

        America, Britain, France, really need to stay out of this war, let it peter out, demand a ceasefire over winter and have peace talks in the spring. I think that is what should happen.
        The alternative is World War 3.

        Let’s end with a beautiful song…

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbdyg51MVbg&ab_channel=Gugumellus

      • Or 9/11. It’s never the Moscow apartment block explosions that killed over three hundred people, carried out by the Russian state to legitimise the second Chechen invasion.

      • Forgive my sharpness LC.Not venting there,just a contextual misjudgement.
        To DCI-Re-Pearl-Harbour.Wilson needed to goad Japan into conflict and achieved this by cutting it’s oil supply off in the Phillipines,a lot more to this obviously but leaving many of the US Navies more rusting ships outside the harbour while keeping ‘radio-silence’ at the facilities comms location, they enabled this Japanese assault allowing carte-blanche entrance to the party in East-Asia, almost a replica of the first world war ff with Churchill (as then first sea-lord) engineering the cruise ship ‘Lusitania’ incident ,carrying massive ordnance for use against Germany as well as 1500 passengers,into u-boat rich terrain off the coast of Ireland Ireland.
        Despite German newspapers in the US trying to warn of the consequences (censored) the Lusitania sailed,Churchill changed the ‘cruiser-rules’ of the sea to ‘ram-rules’…(dodgy for subs,they had to surface to issue warnings) then by calling off the Lusitania’s escort at the designated point,the sub slammed a pedo amidships into the cruiseliner with large loss of life.Game-On America now in a war highly unpopular at home.

      • It’s like asking a patient:

        “How long has this been going on for”?

        And they start with:

        “Well, back in 1952…”

        🙄

      • America’s means of starting wars, waging wars, whitewashing their wars, has been a long, cruel and scandalous orgy of stupidity and bloodshed for almost 200 years. We’ve all had enough of it. No American in 2022 wants to see a man who sniffs kids and shits himself lead them into a futile overseas war. Joe Biden leading you into battle? I can’t see many Americans signing up for that. Or British citizens.

      • The nonsense about Pearl Harbour is just that, nonsense. It only works if you totally forgot that Japan invaded China in 1937, now more recognised as the start of WW2. Japan wanted an empire, hence it has an emperor, and the navy called the Imperial Japanese Navy. South East Asia was always an objective, and anyone who had the pleasure of being subjugated by them during the war will tell you of their barbarity.
        Ditto for WW1, this nonsense is usually cited alongside the Balfour treaty, saying the Jews brought America into the war to get their hands on Israel, although the ‘secret’ Balfour treaty was published in the London evening standard two years before the conspritards claim.

      • Problem is RTC, there are people here today that think we should have stayed out of WW2. For fucks sake!
        If you think we shouldn’t have freed Europe from the Nazis yet think it’s ok for Russia to invade its neighbours for no other reason than the conquest of territory, there is no saving you.
        And fuck off with any whataboutisms you dug up on the internet.

      • If Britain should have stayed out of the 1914-18 war., wasn’t our war. No war of 1914, now war of 1939.

        I’m just not a gung-ho pro-war guy. Wars serve no good is this day and age. And to go to war with Putin, and what we have is Joe Biden, Rishi Sunak, Macron. Putin has China to call on, they seem keen on paying a visit to Taiwan soon.

        USA-Mexico is a great example to bring up. It has very clear parallels to Russia invading Ukraine. But you are free to sidestep any issue, my friend.

        Peace. 🙂

      • @LC
        You cannot be serious.
        Do you actually have the slightest idea what is going on in Ukraine?

      • What is going on in Ukraine? Horrible fucked up shit that never needed to happen? USA funding a corrupt regime that needed to behave itself, was given warning to behave itself, but they were like the guy at the bar who kept talking and at closing time got a beat-down. Not nice to watch, but why escalate it? Why not call for peace? Washington has never done that. Westminster has never call for peace. Very few have called for peace. But some of us want peace by ANY means not World War 3.

    • “The ‘dirty bomb’. A conventional bomb ‘laced’ with ‘radioactive material’. Could they get away with that?”

      Could who get away with it Miles? Are we talking about Russia or Ukraine … or NATO?
      Russia has no need to pull such a stunt and their Defence Minister hit the phones PERSONALY to warn his respective NATO opposite numbers of the received intelligence and assure them that ny such device won’t be of Russian origin.

      Ukraine then? Most definitely; they have the materials, and an urgent need for what they hope would be a catalyzing event. (now you can see why they secured Zaporizhzhia)

      NATO? awww they wouldn’t do that would they? Naaah gawd bless ya, perish the fucking thought… cough-Kersch Bridge! cough-Nordstream sabotage!

      oh…

      https://thegrayzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Support-for-Maritime-Raiding-Operations-Proposal.pdf

      oh dear…

      • You did see the ‘evidence’ that the Russians were passing off as legitimate?
        It was posted on the Russian embassy twitter account and was so easy to debunk I can’t understand why they bothered.
        Then again, they know that there are many that will believe it regardless.

      • *cough* retard

        Ukraine likes to secure power plants for no other reason than they belong to them and they need the power more than usual with winter approaching.

        Those who parrot Kremlin talking-points are beyond stupid.

  22. Remember those old public information films from back in the early 80s during the height of the Cold War?

    The idea was that if you hid under the kitchen table that you might be fortunate enough to survive a 20megatom blast from a nuclear weapon that landed on “Abdul’s Grocery and Wacky Baccy Store” on the street corner just down the road!

    To be honest ending up as a survivor would be a fate worse than death – new born babies would end up like Greta Thunderbirds along with a shedload of deranged neckbeards wandering the streets like a zombie apocalypse… or a Labour Party Conference. Whichever is the more shocking!

  23. Sorry off topic..I think waitrose must be out of almond milk, the lefties on twatter are comparing the Manston centre to a concentration camp..

    • A lovely camp, a one time Battle of Britain Field defending us against a daily invasion of scum from Europe who wanted to take our country over. At least in those days they succeeded . The Camp is now a shithole of smelly unwashed feral scum of the criminal class just the same as other IRC’s in the UK. But they are here, Now. And they have a strong foothold and a Government that simply refuses to defend these Isles, being far too occupied with their snouts firmly embedded in the public trough. It seems we are to be taxed to extinction, yet our betters still find the cash to give away.

      I served in the late 60,s at Manston, and was privilaged to have known the survivors of air combat, who were at that time om “make” for pension. I served alongside many a hero in Air Traffic. Butch Bellamy ( Typhoons ) Les Pierce (Lancs ) and many others.
      I recall a reunion there which included Douglas Bader and johnny Johnson.
      To see that once very proud station full of vile shit appals me !
      To see such a sorry fall upsets me. Fuck our useless Government.

      • Given that there are cases of diphtheria, TB & c., it needs a cordon sanitaire around it, any escapees to be shot. The last thing we need is a load more epidemics…

  24. Only a fool would give up their WMD.
    Gadaffi did it.
    Ukraine did it.
    Look what happened to them.
    The little fat cunt in N. Korea won’t give his up.
    He’s got more fucking sense.
    Nothing can be deinvented.
    They’ll either never be used ( again ), or they will be.
    My money’s on the latter.
    The Earth’s new overlords will be the mighty Cockroaches.
    Get To Fuck.

    • They’re value for money!

      Ask the mayor of Hiroshima.

      Only 2 deployed,
      Successful everytime.

      The smart money would be the study of cockroaches and their imperviousness to nuclear Armageddon.

      Expect to see a Russian human/cockroach hybrid take to the field soon.

      The Ukrainians will be stunned when they blow someone’s head off and he still keeps running about the battlefield.

    • Imagine North Korea with no nukes. That’s why that war never ended, never had a denouement. Makes you wonder if their nukes are legit, though. I mean, you could just make it look REALLY convincing that you have many nukes and that keeps away the USA. Otherwise, North Korea would have been gone long ago, reunified with South Korea, just back to good old KOREA. I’d love to see that.

      • They should sit down over a dog dinner and talk🙂

        To be honest LeCunt I don’t care if they reconcile or kill each other.
        Korea means nowt to me.

      • It’s just a drag hearing about North Korea. 1948 that pish has been going on. Vietnam reunified, Germany reunified, the uh… err… the… Everly Brothers reunified. Come on Koreans, you can do it! 🙂

  25. Think that the U.K. adopts a no first strike policy. Our submarines carry a letter from the current prime minister with supposedly instructions to the commanding officer as to launch in retaliation, don’t launch join the Americans if any left or sail south to Australia.
    Russia still has a mindset of tactical use of nuclear weapon’s which has been a factor in its war planning for years. All those years ago we were convinced that if the Reds came charging into Western Europe we would go tactical nuke after about four days.
    The use of nuclear weapons is in the hands of those who control them, no easy answer to current situation maybe one day we will get rid of the lot not just ours, right.

  27. What would you do if you were told you had 5 minutes to live before a nuclear strike?

    I think I would ravage some gormless teenage snowflake staring at her phone, about to do a selfie on Shitebook as she waited for the nuclear weapon to hove into view from the skies above.

    Not sure what I’d do with the remaining 4 minutes and 30 seconds though.

  28. NATO has said that if Russia uses a tactical nuclear weapon, or any other WMD such as chemical or biological weapons it will respond with a substantial conventional attack.
    Obviously this would be a grave escalation, but it will not have to be the start of a nuclear war.
    Only one side would be stupid or evil enough to launch a nuclear weapon in anger, and it isn’t the west.

  29. Liz Truss’ espionage and industrial sabotage skills seem on par with Austin Powers and not Jason Bourne, don’t they?

    “It’s done.”

    Deary me. Learn the art of subterfuge, speaking in code, please, Mr Sunak if you are going to go to war in the coming weeks.

    • Imagine using your own personal phone to confirm you has just committed industrial sabotage constituting an act of war? Britain needs to take many mighty steps BACK in this war. No British citizen wants us to be involved in this war. We all want to enjoy a safe, fun life.

      • I want us to be involved in this war, and I am want Ukraine to win. I know plenty of British people who think alike, but keep convincing yourself you speak for the good people of Britain.

      • I have all 67 million British citizens on my Facebook and they
        ALL are against this war! 😉

        Even the ones with Ukraine flags next to their LGBTQ+ flags! 😉

        Joking aside, I can only speak for myself here. I know my own mind and it’s against Britain entering this war, but that has already happened. We’re ran by weak idiots, sadly.

        Peace.

      • “Rishi will channel Churchill of course! Just as, err… Boris did.”

        Well the parallels with the WW2 Polish ‘guarantee’ are there to see.

  30. Another point is without underground testing or open air testing how do we know that the weapons will still work?

    The Americans had trouble remaking “Fog-Bank” (An H-Bomb inter-stage material) after the original recipe was not documented sufficiently and all the people that made it retired:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fogbank
    How did the Russians work out how to make that or something similar in the 1950s? They must have had spies in the USA.

    I’m sure Vlad’s silos are all rusted up. I don’t mean to say that they don’t have enough bombs to destroy the world several times over – I’m sure they do, but it must cost a fortune to maintain the nuclear deterrent on all sides: US, Russia, UK (and the tridents we have on-loan from the Yanks), China and France being the big 5.

    Then you have the small nations that have nuclear weapons: India, Pakistan, Egypt, Israel, North Korea. Who’s next?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRLON3ddZIw

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