After completing some IT work for a customer on Sunday, my friends and I paid a visit to the local boozer for a rather nice carvery.
We got talking about politics, about Boris, and Covid and Brexit. But the main bone of contention was the pending energy crisis and who was to blame.
One friend said its “those people who voted Brexit” (he is 23), another friend said it was “capitalism” (aged 31 I think), and my two other colleagues (44 and 50 something) said it was a combination between Britain’s suicidal march towards going Green, and all the shit going on with Putin, Germany and Ukraine.
The conversation then moved on towards a possible war in Europe, which could escalate westwards and inevitably involve the UK. The naïve 23 year old shook his head and dismissed the idea as pure nonsense. The oldest among us reminded him of the Cold War years of the late 70s and early 80s and the nuclear threat/deterrent.
But again, he dismissed it as ancient history, and that such things could never happen today, although he never explained why.
But that didn’t stop him taking a pop at Britain and the US for “inflaming” and “prolonging” the 2nd World War, and that both countries should feel ashamed for killing/murdering so many innocent people, especially in Germany and Japan!
There was a stunned silence for a few seconds before we all waded in to him with a few facts and observations. But he wouldn’t have it. To his mind Britain and the US were the antagonists and should have been far more conciliatory and diplomatic with Germany and Japan. He then said the same about Iraq and Kuwait back in the 90s where Britain and the US were again at fault for being too macho.
Inevitably the conversation more or less ended there. We paid our bill and fucked off in separate directions. But my two older colleagues and I bemoaned the young cunt for his myopic view of history. And that perhaps another world war, or European war might just focus the mind.
Not that it would make any difference because the cunt would still blame the UK rather than Russia, probably because of Brexit and racism etc.
Nominated by Technocunt
The UK seems to have bred a shower of nancy boy apologists. I hope you collectively called him a cunt.
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You need better friends Techno.
Lets hope WW3 is as good as the last two!
And your mates get Conscripted,
See if their views change!!
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I can’t believe the young’un said we should have been friendly with an expansionist, democracy destroying power (funny how that applies to nazi Germany and the EU 🤔)
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Funnily enough we did speak about the draft while in the pub. And he said it would never happen “today” because “we have rights”, and then said any war “would not be in my name!”
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“I can’t believe the young’un said we should have been friendly with an expansionist, democracy destroying power…”
..because WE would never have done anything like that would we?… dear me no… tut tut perish the thought etc…
… stomping around the globe sticking the flag in any bit of ground our navy bumped into 🤔. Don’t get me wrong, I have no qualms with our empirical gains, we were the nation to which the whole world looked and held its breath, we were a dynamic forceful even dangerous people and they knew that to fuck with the British would extract a heavy cost in both blood and treasure. We knew what we wanted and went out and got it. That spirit HAD to be crushed utterly… and so it began.
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That cunt gives young people a bad name. Though, these days, that aint saying much.
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It sounds like the 23-year-old acquired his knowledge of 20th century history from Jeremy Corbyn. Deluded fuckwit.
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Sounds like this cunt would rather be walking around saluting Hail Hitler!
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Well AH was a total cunt, went too far, only had one bollock and all that, but he wasn’t always wrong…
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Indeed Ron, at least the trains ran on time when he was in charge. Sort of compensates for all the other stuff really.
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The ‘Peoples car’ was a huge success.
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Yeah no one could afford it a bit like electric cars.
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Ron, f.y.i. ze Fuhrer had both nads…
The Secret Diaries of Hitler’s Doctor
http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Morell/Morell.pdf
…looted by the Americans and discovered by David Irving in a cardboard box in the Washington National Archives in Sept ’81
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If China and Russia attacked satellites or turned off the internet millenials and zoomers would shit their pants and immediately surrender.
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I’ll vouch for that!
A few weeks ago Facebook went offline for a few hours, and this cunt couldn’t stop crying about in his Twatter page.
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“…Facebook went offline for a few hours, and this cunt couldn’t stop crying”
There’s your real W.M.D. Techno… the t’internets have ben socially ‘weaponised’ with the cross hair set on our very individualities. It’s the new SOMA as it were. I almost weep to see 40yr old ‘men’ banging away at Sonic the fucking HedgeCunt! and what impression does that knobend’s son (dog forbid) gain of his notional principal mentor? watching the old man behaving like one of those behavioural lab pigeons ringing a bell for another grain of millet, hour after day after day!
“There was a stunned silence for a few seconds before we all waded in to him… Inevitably the conversation more or less ended there.”
Well for me that would have been the point at which I would have taken him up with the question…
“Sources? name and/or quote your sources.”
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As a social experiment, I reccommend the total shutdown of the internet for 1 year. Would be interesting, scientifically and socially, to see how people react and adapt.
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The usual rose tinted glasses type. Maybe he can borrow Elton John’s whilst he is getting fucked up the arse while shouting nien!
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Nien, mein herr? Dat ist nein!
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The Nazi cunts started it and we finished it (with help from our American cousins). Simple history. How the fuck could you see it otherwise? What was this idiot’s view of the Holocaust out of interest?
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That they were asking for it probably.
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The simple young twat should be shot for treason talking like that.
All those young blokes,
British, yanks, Canadian, aussies,kiwi, Commonwealth,
All that lost their lives fighting in the war.
Its disgraceful talk.
Disrespectful as fuck.
Hes a lot to learn
Suggest he starts with history first.
🇬🇧
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Lets ask Professor Goldberg from the University of Daytime TV..
Has anyone bothered to cunt this fat windbag after recent revelations?
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What’s this Goldberg been up to LL?
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Ron@
I assume LL means gobshite emptyhead Whoopi Goldberg.
Shes just got a ban on some tv show for saying the Holocaust wasnt about race.
Not sure of my facts here,
Going off bad memory but sure Whoopi herself is a jew?
And think she was in a relationship with Ted Danson?
Also Jewish.
So doubt shes antisemitic?
Just a bit of a retard.
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Just your usual leftie anti-Semitism, Ron. Is there anything they are not experts on? Next Joey Essex talks geopolitics on the Russia/Ukraine crisis.
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He got booted out of Australian version I’m A Celeb quicker than Djokovic the liar. Oh well at least Joe could fill out a form correctly. Maybe the Serbs don’t like VISAs.
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Ah gotcha thanks guys
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Despite the name, Whoopi Goldberg is NOT a Jew, she only scores a 4 out of 15 at this great Jew-run website:
http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=42
She is a genius at landing herself in trouble with various sensitive groups. She went out with Ted Danson in the early 90s until she and he had the bright idea of Ted appearing at a shindig in blackface.
She’s a mentalist, time for her to be mothballed.
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I love that website, Mel Gibson … No!
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“..Despite the name, Whoopi Goldberg is NOT a Jew,”
True;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whoopi_Goldberg
“One account recalls that her mother, Emma Johnson, thought the family’s original surname was “not Jewish enough” for her daughter to become a star.[… Researcher Henry Louis Gates Jr. found that all of Goldberg’s traceable ancestors were African Americans, that she had no known German or Jewish ancestry, and that none of her ancestors were named Goldberg.”
So more media bullshit blah drone blether… oy vey never mind the total mindfuck that is the 21st century… look here everymensch, look over here!… some anti-semitism… waaaagh!
Load of wank. t’fuck.
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“The Nazi cunts started it and we finished it (with help from our American cousins). Simple history.”
Yeah… waaay too simple Mik. Sit y’self down and listen… from the actual mouth of one who sat round that table at Versailles, who was personal freinds with Baruch, Untermeyer, Brandeis, Joe and JF Kennedy, a liaison for Woodrow fucking Wilson and that Cunt Roosevelt, he was in the thick of it… then the penny dropped as to what was really going on behind the front pages.
….the ‘infamous’…
Benjamin H. Freedman speech (UNEDITED VERSION!) 1961
Willard Hotel Washington D.C. 1961
https://gloria.tv/post/mAYE6MqCKVTm6LEKdAWGLfJk3
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You forget our russian comrades, da! One gun between 4 soldiers, and still pushed ‘ze germans’ from Stalingrad to Berlin.
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Hitler himself won us the war, with one bad decision: ‘lets attack russia, ja?’
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You can argue with them until you go black in the face.
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You’d have to walk a million miles just for one of their smiles.
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Whoopi Goldturd has been saying something about the Holocaust and it wasn’t racist because the Nazis and the Joooos were both white. She has been taken off air for a couple of weeks I think
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That’ll give a well-earned rest to the ears of the American nation.
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There are Jews of all colours. Ethiopian Jews, Cameroonian Jews (Yaphett Kotto from 1979 Alien movie), Black Hebrews who scream at you in New York, Mizrahi (sometimes called “Arab/Oriental” Jews), and so on. Chinese Jews: http://tiny.cc/ChineseJews
But Whoopi is being mental as usual.
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Whoopi Cushion. A bloated bag of air. When the air escapes it sounds like a fart.
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Whoopi is a race baiter, and seems to think black racism somehow trumps any other form of genocide unless it involves blacks
But that’s for a different nom
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“..and it (the holocaust) wasn’t racist because the Nazis and the Joooos were both white.”
Which is horseshit as the phenotypical presentations are clearly identifiable. The woman’s a fucking self basting know-nowt and as Cunty G so effortlessly explains…
“There are Jews of all colours. Ethiopian Jews, Cameroonian Jews (Yaphett Kotto from 1979 Alien movie), Black Hebrews who scream at you…”
…and EVEN Palestinian Jews!!!! Yeah you heard that right!
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“You can argue with them until you go black in the face.”
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Gawd bless yer Sam Beau, needed a fuckin’ larf, J.R. Cuntlerian hilarity, keep it coming.
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Tried to make similar points here before Techno, we now have several generations who have never encountered any significant adversity. Add in obesity, politically correct/woke education and the obsession with social media and the young today are up against it. Still plenty of good and sensible kids around, just tend not to hear too much from them. Get your dopey little friend to watch The World At War series, and ask him if his naive opinions have changed. BBC actually produced some fine content many years ago.
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The World at War was Thames Television, ITV. Full series of the 24 episodes, but not the specials:
https://www.actvid.com/tv/watch-the-world-at-war-full-37277
I only recently found out that there was a 1978 USA-UK-USSR co-production (with a German producer!) of a 20-part documentary on the Russian point of view of WW2, narrated by Burt Lancaster. Link in post below…
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The Unknown War (1978, 20 x 52 minute episodes)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhs30iGhgICncex8qB-_Fmej-0HSwy4fH
It’s brilliant.
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Thanks cunty, my memory’s not what it was. The only time I have ever given the bbc any credit and it wasn’t them! Will have a look at that series.
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“…and the young today are up against it. Still plenty of good and sensible kids around, just tend not to hear too much from them. Get your dopey little friend to watch The World At War series.”
With you there Magic there are indeed good and sensible kids. “World at War” is a fair starting point simply because it exists and is ‘media acceptable’. But it’s just a ‘trainer pool’, a useful, shallow gently shelving beach to a deep, frightening, filthy polluted sea. It’s just cookie-cutter history lacking real insight and political context.
I keep an inquisitive eye on what my boys are taught re contemporary history and it is woefully lacking. 2yrs ago I sat my eldest down in front of the Ben Freedman Speech posted above (but the shoirt version) and said “watch and learn”. From which he did, he didn’t look up from the screen until the end and it all started to come together for him but most importantly he saw the point of ‘History’ and that you CANNOT rely on the system to give you the facts. Quite the opposite.
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Perhaps we should nuke China into oblivion, and teach Puftin a lesson…
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The World at War was the finest television ever produced by ITV. Made in the early 1970s it relied on eye witness accounts and had 24 or 26 episodes based on well thought out themes.
Can any of you think of television programmes made since the advent of wokeism that can even approach this feast of impartial,thought provoking excellence?
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Tremedous series Guzzi. I watch it every couple of years, and it’s amazing how much I still learn from it.
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I watch it every once in a while too. That and a minimal of an annual trip to Eden camp to remind me just how fucking grateful we should all be.
Your “friend” needs a fucking frontal lobotomy.
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Guzziguy@ – The World At War is one of the darkest, bleakest things I have ever seen – genuinely disturbing with images that are seared onto the brain for life – the REALITY of battle.
One HOUR of this reality would have 95% of “da yoot” crying or annihilated.
“Toxic white Male aggression” – saving the weak and cowardly since time began for the weak and cowardly to steal the peace and permanently disrespect those who were brave enough to stand.
They need a good hard slap round the fucking head.
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I suspect TWAW will either be cut to ribbons on future broadcasts with a warning message at the start saying “attitudes from the 40s through to the 70s may offend some people”
Either that or a reboot will be commissioned and completely revised so that the War was all our fault.
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I’ve linked this above, but there is also a great UK-USA-USSR documentary series that is about WW2 from the Russian point of view, called, The Unknown War (1978) narrated by movie legend, Burt Lancaster: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhs30iGhgICncex8qB-_Fmej-0HSwy4fH
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And prior to the World at War, there was BBC2’s, The Great War, on World War One in 1964. 26 x 38 minute episodes:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLucsO-7vMQ00twBJvRZKs1KNUKUVClo6C
Amazing series. Most of the men interviewed in it had never spoke of their experiences before and most of them were dead by the 1980s.
The war of 1914-18 is still hotly contested over why it began. It wasn’t a situation that Britain needed to weigh in on, it was a Russian-German affair, but the tycoons in Britain had been plotting to destroy this New Germany since the 1890s, putting out anti-German propaganda in 1907 that no one took seriously as Germany had been allies of Britain for ages, no quarrel with them, it was the Spanish and French that gave us grief. But the war was pushed on the people and it was a disaster for humanity that resonates to this day.
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Many thanks CG; not seen it yet but will.
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Once those who fought and lived through the Second World War died off the possibility of WW3 became much bigger. Those who fought and lived through a war that wasn’t only viewable on cable news knew the real horror of war.
The young have had their history taught to them be left wing Britain hating shits and commies.
No nation is without blemish in their history but Germany and Japan were about as bad is it gets, if the Japanese think China has forgiven or forgotten the occupation they have another think coming.
Putin v Biden and the piss weak west with China ready to exploit any situation is not a comforting thought.
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World War One was when it all started. That war should never have happened, or at least not on that scale, and not involving Britain. It had fuck all to do with us. It was an oil war, the first of many. The Germans wanted to build the railway to link their country to the Middle Eastern oilfields. And Africa was still being fought over, the Germans had a tiny piece compared to Britain and France but the tycoons in Britain and France wanted to crush Germany and continue to dominate the world. So the war ends mainly due to Germany running out of diesel fuel, then we get 1919 and Germany is crippled. Then… oh I forget what happens next. 🙂
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At the risk of repeating m’delf Cunty; check out the Freedman Speech above, wherein all is concisely explained.
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And it’s a load of lies, easily debunkable.
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“And it’s a load of lies, easily debunkable.”
So why haven’t you?
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I did the last time you shovelled it. The not so secret Balfour treaty was in the papers from its inception, the lucitania (or Lithuania as someone called ir🤣) wasn’t deliberately sunk to draw the US into the war.
Just a few of the unfortunate facts that mean this is nonsense. Sorry, ex jew goes rubber dinghy rapids to jerk off his catholic convert brethren.
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I have a 5:57PM comment in moderation for using the word to describe a nation when it has hurt it’s leg(s)!
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Is there no admin tonight?
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“But that didn’t stop him taking a pop at Britain and the US for “inflaming” and “prolonging” the 2nd World War, and that both countries should feel ashamed for killing/murdering so many innocent people, especially in Germany and Japan!”
Putin must be pissing himself with laughter at the extent to which his propaganda has penetrated our naive youth. Any idealist is now a target. And wokery is the spoonful of sweet shite which makes the poison go down. I’ve long suspected that this is one of the Kremlin’s most potent tools for destabilising the West and gaining global advantage.
Cited in RT article yesterday:
“Dmitry Suslov*, Deputy Director of the Centre for Comprehensive European and International Studies at the Higher School of Economics, and a Valdai Club contributor. He believes “The EU has given up its authority on all matters of military security in the region. Its own security is provided by the United States under the NATO agreements, and not by local forces. When the EU says things like it needs to make decisions [regarding Ukraine], there’s one thing we can ask: and what does EU have to do with it?””
A question RT would obviously like its misguided European readers to ask themselves, and which is increasingly being asked on the obedient Left.
100,000 troops on the Ukraine border? To invade? How ludicrous, says a Russian spokesman…we’ll wait until you’ve lost interest…
https://www.channel4.com/news/what-does-russia-want-to-de-escalate-the-ukraine-crisis
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Ukraine President: “We don’t need this panic…”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIlyx_bKZFk&ab_channel=CBSEveningNews
Neither Russia nor Ukraine are using the word, “invasion,” it’s the USA and the media. Now, Russia are mental and have been fucking with modern Ukraine since the 1990s, but this talk of war is shocking, it is scaring people not just in Ukraine, but in Poland and Lithuania where I have relatives. Biden and USA media need to shut the fuck up. Putin isn’t stupid, he knows the “invading” Ukraine would cause a shit-storm and look at Afrganistan – not in the news much now, is it? But Biden is happy to abandon one war to start another? Get the clown booted out of the White House before he destroys all hope of peace with his idiotic babbling.
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Looks exactly like the Russian line to me, Cunty: 100,000 troops, with all necessary logistics, pointing at the Donbass signals Russia’s commitment to world peace and harmony. While the US wants a nuclear war. ‘Course it does.
As I said, the propaganda’s working well, thanks for the demonstration.
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Hard to know what to think when we have an ultra-stupid media these days.
China have troops on the China-India border, have done since October, I think it was. 100,000+ Indian troops, 60,000 Chinese troops: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_China%E2%80%93India_skirmishes
It’s had token coverage in the news and there has been actual firing, “skirmishes” they still call this! There’s been casualties. But no one seems to care in the media or in western governments. It’s mainly mountainous terrain being fought over. Not something I or probably any laymen know much about as other crazy shit has been going on in Europe-UK-USA, etc.
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Russia are doing what they always do, denying what’s blatantly obvious and accusing the West of what they themselves are guilty of. They’ve been playing this game for the last seventy years.
Yes they’ve got a hundred thousand troops on the border but the thought of invasion’s never crossed their minds.
Putin is a short-arse, even stood next to Biden, and he may be impotent too. His ego demands that he should appear to look powerful.
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“…the though of invasion’s never crossed their minds….”
You mean Crimea’s still Ukrainian?
Hilarious.
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I sometimes watch an RT news item on Youtube (and Wion, Al Jazeera etc etc to try to have some balance in my news sources.) I can genuinely say I find them more reliable than the BBC or any American news channel. Unlike them at least some of their output is fact based with no inherent bias or propoganda. I only trust the russians fractionally more than I do their bat eating neighbours, but I don’t trust any of our politicians either.
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Prolonging the war? Really? This twat is thicker than Joey Essex. The allies did everything they could to end the war quicker! Oh, why bother, this muppet will never understand. Is he a bastard child of Hitler that nobody knew about?
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“The allies did everything they could to end the war quicker!”
That frankly, is bollocks.
Churchill was desperate for a war to give him something to hang his ‘legacy’ on which up to then had ben a litany of disasters with the odd lucky break to mitigate his arrogant drunken idiocy.
By 1938 he was effectively Chiam Weissman’s paid bitch to whiom he once admitted before witnesses “Yes you are our masters, if you ask us to fight we will fight like tigers!” If you don’t know who and what Chiam Weissman was you really need to.
The very last thing Hitler wanted to do was wage a war against the British. Even Goebells’ diary records with distaste “…the Fuhrer’s maudlin affection for the English.” There are countless records of Hitler’s desire to reach terms (not even surrender) with Britain. He wanted nothing more than the restoration of those provinces carved off Germany by Versailles and that we should keep our nose out of Europe. In return he offered to de-militarise and even offered to release to Britain 12 of his best divisions in immediate defence of any incursion against Britain and ANY of her colonies/dominions against ANY agressor INCLUDING HIS OWN ALLIES in the tri-partite pact, Russia (at the time) Italy or Japan with the promise of more if required.
He knew that should the British Empire collapse Germany couldn’t take up the legacy and those colonies would fall to Russia (India and the middle East particulalry) and her Far Eastern colonies to Japan.
None of that bothered Roosevelt of course who was licking his fucking lips at the prospect and had a raiding party of accountants already scouring the globe to identify Britain’s monetisable holdings. Some insight into that truth is revealed in the private diary of the Vice President Henry Wallace …
Roosevelt – cabinet meeting May 1942 –
“…my great dream and ambition is the DESTRUCTION OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE beginning with India.”
With freinds like that etc…
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Do I even need to mention the Rudolph Hess flight and its purpose and why in consequence (in order to protect a certain person’s ‘reputation’ he spent the rest of his life in Spandau in absolute solitary confinement? Diablo, there’s a lot you don’t know.
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Sorry, but what a load of shite.
You seem to forget that Churchill wasn’t PM until after the war, and had fuck all to do with it starting.
Try some history rather than pseudo religious anti semitic propaganda.
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“Sorry, but what a load of shite.
You seem to forget that Churchill wasn’t PM until after the war, ”
That’s almost charming in its ignorance and its naivety. Almost as if you think Churchill just appeared one morning in a puff of smoke or something. It’s clear you know little more than received history.
“…and had fuck all to do with it starting.”
…and even less about the man’s life and motivations.
“Try some history …”
D’ya know what Butstick, nothing would please me more than sitting down with you for a couple of weekends and us going through some actual documented texts together and grub this thing out root and branch.
“…rather than pseudo religious anti semitic propaganda.”
Would that it were so… but it isn’t. S’just “History” as recorded, it’s just that you’ve obviously never been exposed to it. and as for your ‘anti-semitic’ inference… well I expected more than that cheap conversational hand grenade.
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“…Butstick…”???
Yikes!… apologies G.S… that is most definitely a typo, the ‘G’ and ‘B’; keys are adjacent and I’m tired.
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If Ukraine ever joined or applied to become a member of Nato Putin would be finished, both politically and physically.
He would be deemed a failure by the oligarchs who apparently run Russia.
So many red herrings it’s difficult to know wtf is happening.
I’m too old now, done my service and reserve time.
Never zip up that naval tunic anyhow.
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It’ll be like dad’s army again, only this time the old fuckers will have more fight in them than the young.
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According to the Ukrainian president, he was told last year that his country would be allowed to join NATO, but I don’t think that any timescale has ever been given.
Such a move would get up Putin’s nose, and I suspect that a lot of his recent sabre rattling has been aimed at frightening the alliance off from admitting Ukraine.
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The problem with the Russian Bear is that it is an unbelievably tetchy creature. Let us hope it restricts itself to growling, rather than shitting and lashing out…
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WWIII has already started, just most people haven’t realized it yet. My question is will it stay cold or will it get (very) hot?
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Yeah, we’ve been in a cyber-war for decades. A spiritual war, too.
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The culture wars are another front.
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Bizarrely, the Russians think nukes can be used tactically. As a lot of people have the things, I just think it’ll escalate exponentially after the 1sr red button is hit.
Alternatively, it is biological or chemical, and the latter – look up SLUDGE (highly appropriate acronym) would be a bloody awful way to go.
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USA are at DEFCON 3 – “Select forces are ready to deploy in 15 minutes”
https://www.defconlevel.com
It’s scarier that it’s Joe Biden as the puppet POTUS at this point. I hope that he shuts the fuck up and is diplomatic with the Kremlin as one false move and yes, USA could got to DEFCON 1: “Maximum military readiness for “immediate response” to threats or attacks”
Come on, Joe! Show the world that you are a peaceful, calm man and not the raging nutjob we mock you as! And Boris, you behave yersel’, too, ye blabbering buffoon!
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Someone should mention to this little turd that far from prolonging the war , Britain shortened it by a couple of years and saved millions of lives by breaking the Enigma code.
The U.S had no option but the bomb the nips into oblivion. What was the other option? Who knows how many more years of entrenched warfare fighting over tiny islands in the Pacific before a bloodbath invading the mainland against a fanatical enemy. Somebody get this arsewipe a history book.
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“The U.S had no option but the bomb the nips into oblivion. What was the other option? Who knows how many more years of entrenched warfare fighting over tiny islands in the Pacific before a bloodbath invading the mainland against a fanatical enemy. Somebody get this arsewipe a history book.”
…sighs…The dropping of the A bomb on Hiroshima was nothing more than the US waving its thick dick at the world and the opening shot of the Cold War that followed!
Japan had been seeking routes to surrender for MONTHS prior to Hiroshima through their Swiss and Russian legations but by then all goodwill toward the Ruskis had evaporated as the Western allies realised what the Red Army was and that they’d got a tiger by the tail.
Japan was completely surrounded and blockaded, its major ports were mined, nothing could get in and they couldn’t export, they were completely isolated and had no indignous fuel/mineral resources. They were going nowhere and could have been starved into capitulation in a few months but… the Potsdam Declaration in July, demanded that Japan surrender UNCONDITIONALY or face ‘prompt and utter destruction.’
MacArthur was appalled. He knew that the Japanese would never renounce their emperor, and that without him an orderly transition to peace would be impossible anyhow, because his people would never submit to Allied occupation unless he’d ordered it.
That was the sticking point that triggered the bomb drop, and what’s fucking worse is that when surrender terms were finally agreed … they agreed that the Emperor would stay! Fuckin’ bollocks!
Then we come to Nagasaki which was the US dropping its kegs and mooning Stalin and nothing could have stimulated Soviet Russia’s nuke development faster than that. Well done America!
Fuck me if they were that keen to make the Japanese ‘see sense’ they could have with equal effect detonated it 5 or 10 miles offshore. The message would have been rec’d loud and clear.
History… great stuff!
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I remember a few years back a guided wander around a rather pleasant town in what used to be East Germany. Apparently the RAF bombed the fuck out of it.
The guide made no attempt to disguise her feelings about the group of Brits she was showing around as it was all our fault for starting the war.
I can understand this distorted view of history in a school formerly controlled by Russia, but I do wonder what the fuck they are teaching our children in British schools for cunts like your mate to be so fucking stupid.
I must remember to ask my grandson what he knows about WW2 although I fear what he might tell me. Fucking leftie teachers need re-educating…
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Too many people graduate from the University of Youtube.
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Indeed but then… who controls Youtube?
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LOL … remind ya mate that Mr Putin has already invaded Ukraine. The East is a no go zone and the Crimea is back where it ‘wants’ to be. Doubt them and you’ll get a very nasty surprise that will not be of the ‘hurty word’ variety. Tell him also to look at the Arctic and all of the land emerging from beneath the ice pack in the seas between the Arctic and Russia. It has and is being militarised as we speak. Russia has plans and the UK barely figures in them. In fact a couple of years ago it was suggested by Russian military strategic command that they destroy the UK to focus the minds of others once they decide to undertake a bit more adventurism.
Brexit has fuck all to do with energy pricing structures … it’s purely a destabilisation technique to deflect the West’s attention from what is really going on. The Russian ploy of maskirovka … it’s their go to modus operandi.
If it all kicks off shit will get real very quickly … you might want to come and work for Wagner … very progressive entity with good rates of pay.
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“maskirovka” yep.. they learned it from the undisputed ‘jedi masters’ of the technique.
“By deception shall we do war”
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I spend a lot of time in Poland . The Russians are constantly testing the Polish defences by flying into their air space on a weekly basis especially from Karliningrad.
The more we box that cunt Putin in the more likely he will invade eastern europe and beyond if the west don’t get there act together.
Incidentally The eu silence concerning Russia is deafening.
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I can’t see anyone benefiting from a war at this stage, but who knows.I hope not. It’s a bit sad to see people wishing for war. No one wants their kids involved in that shite, we’ve seen enough bloodshed in the last 100+ years.
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The Rothschild’s always seem to profit, they hedge their bets and back both sides.
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“I can’t see anyone benefiting from a war…”
Now you know as well as I that a certain group will benefit hugely and not just the likes of Raytheon… woah pump the brakes, what’s this? US Secretary for Defense is some spook called Lloyd Austin… google google google…
” …a former (?) board director of Raytheon” well who’d a thunk it??
And the cunt has just signed off another $2.3bn contract with cough cough… Raytheon. Show us yer share portfolio ya treacherous neo-con shitbag.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Puftin puts his old vent dummy friend Mutti Merkel in power as a Soviet Commissar of Neu-DDR.
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The most astounding thing about your young friend is that he has heard of WWII and could accurately name the main protagonists. By today’s standards of historical knowledge in the young, that puts him on a par with a Cambridge PhD candidate.
Most snowflakes have zero historical knowledge and what they do know is attributed to the evils of slavery, which they regard as the only wicked and terrible thing to have ever happened and the unique responsibility of the UK. They are blissfully ignorant of any other historical event, good or bad.
But is it any surprise when history is barely taught in schools today and what is taught is skewed by Woke propagandists.
The world is finished.
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“…The world is finished.”
Nah, so long as one IsAC cunter remains online, then hope remains.
We shall cunt them on the beaches and the landing grounds etc etc
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Perhaps the young fellow is yet another victim of modern education?
The infestation of our schools by commies and their like have been a complete disaster.
Having said that most people have no grasp of history whatsoever.
Ukraine is the natural buffer to Russian adventures but the question remains :Is NATO still relevant on the post Soviet age? Is it a relic that postures and antagonises a somewhat ramshackle corrupt Russia?
Is it legitimate to send British troops to defend eastern Europe when our own borders are left at the mercy of every wastrel in the world?
Fuck knows?
Are a great many cunts involved?
Oh yes.
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I subscribe to the cunt theory of history.
The one universal constant in world history and current affairs is the presence of cunts. Every historical misadventure has a cunt at it’s focal point.
The world desperately needs a Cunt Non-Proliferation treaty.
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Lust for power, lust for glory, lust for a legacy before the grave swallows a man up has driven the endless wars. And it is really just one endless war, really. Only one year in the 1300s I think it was, saw no wars on Earth. It’s in our DNA to fight over land, riches and in our days we fight over crappy ideologies and information. The internet is the real theatre of war now.
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So many moving parts to this Terry, Ukraine is basically a failed state, owes Russia billions for its improted gas which it offsets via pipeline passage fees. Now Nord-Stream 2 will allow Russia to bypass those fees and the Poles aren’t happy about losing out on their slice of the transit fee pie.
It’s bond issues are verging on junk status and it is cap in hand to the IMF who are witholding bailout packages to them because of their utter failure to address its endemic civic and governmental corruption… but wait… what’s this? six hours of recordings between Poroshenko (the Chocolate Billionaire) and quid pro Joe (farty pants) Biden incriminating him DIRECTLY in massive fraud and blackmail? Surely not?
Now we see why Biden’s Laptop Matters !!!
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World War Three is my favourite subject and professional career…
I once got my finger stuck in a WE177 Atomic bomb while assembling the casing.
I used to lecture on the subject to adults and school children. The latter I would scare to Death. Sometimes it’s nice to be a Cunt..
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If WW3 comes it would be a merciful release from this shit. Maybe I would survive it like I did by not catching covid. I’m too old for conscription.
Putin is a dangerous, sleekit cunt but sometimes it’s better the cunt you know than one you don’t. Hungarians hate Russians, Ukrainians hate Russians but they were our allies in WW2. If he gets deposed he’ll get a cooncil hoose in Scotland. Need a reliable Russian vehicle? I know a man with an old Lada. His for only £300. He’d get chucked out of all the pubs for talking politics and threatening the bar man with Novichoks.
I guess there might be a coup in Ukraine and the Ruskies will “assist” if required BUT how much is it costing them per month to keep 100,000 squadies in that area? The cost of the turnips alone would be astronomical. He’d be better to send them to Ukraine on an 18-30 holiday to destabalise the country that way.
I wish the RAF would shoot down some of those planes that come near our airspace claiming it was an accident. If the Turks can get away with it I don’t see why we can’t.
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I don’t believe anything of significance in the past 100 years of geopolitics is truly organic, and that includes both world wars.
As for the energy crisis it couldn’t be any more obvious it is completely contrived, inexorably pushing us towards a predefined goal. The politicians might be dim but they are not the meat and bones of the establishment, they are just the skin on a flappy nutsack (or cornhole, take your choice).
The whole world is a stage. Covid declines, up pops Russia! It’s just one fear event after another. Russia needs the West, so does China. It’s all a circus and they are happy to mug off punters willing to put up with their shite amusement rides.
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The major wars of the last 250 years were all planned well in advance, none of them were “organic” as you say. They weren’t like tribal warfare, Vikings raping and pillaging. Media played a huge role, just as it does now and that’s why you should reject most media, it’s a false filter of the world.
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I have it on good authority that Putin got bummed off some binmen..
He just wants to invade because he believes Ukraine is filled with ladyboys who put out!
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That theory could be true Vernon. I heard Putin was captured by Ukrainian prison guards who circumcised him then christened him Moshe.
He never got over it and now it’s payback time
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Circumcised and christened?
There may be some confusion of terminology there 😀😏
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FF@ – Evening Squire – Putin may say he didn’t like it but he made no effort to escape and insisted on ordering a disco ball and some “rather racy outfits” – the dirty little bumlord! 😀
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Putin must be a closet homo. How else to account for those bare chested horse riding pictures?
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One can only hope the dopey bastard does not learn the hard way or maybe all the dopey bastards should. Who knows.
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The worrying thing is that when us over 40s and 50s have carked it, these very same 23 year olds will be in their 40s or 50s. Some might become revered historians and tv presenters, spouting the same twisted versions of history and people will believe it as fact. Funnily enough, that’s usually how wars are started. Hitler blamed the Jews for german surrender in 1918 on the flimsiest of evidence. But many believed him. Fuck about with history’s lessons at your peril.
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The prosaic reality of why Germany surrendered in 1918 was they ran out if diesel. That was one of the main reason – perhaps THE reason – for the war: securing the oilfield and pipelines and railway to the Middle Eastern oilfields. Britain’s first deployment in 1914? Basra, (now Iraq), Ottoman Empire. Hmm. They tend to leave that out of most condensed versions of WW1. Oil, oil, oil, folks!
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All too true. This is why we need nuclear ASAP. Doesn’t matter if it’s fission, we need it NOW.
Open Democracy had a v good article on the +ve side of nuclear, written by someone who used to be a raving anti, ex Stinky Rebellion… Oh yes, he had all the lefty cards, but changed his mind on anti-nuclear.
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There is reason to think that there are secret energy sources – like aether, the abonded 19th century idea of energy in the air that increases as you gain altitude. And there’s reason to think that airplanes fly through air currents alone and not fuel, bub that topic enrages people more that saying that the ocean is level, LOL! You should see the, “aeroplane’s run on electricity” videos on YouTube! Hoo-eee! They are fun to watch!
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Winston Churchill, House of Commons, 1948:
“Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it.”
Not that any woke millennial snowflake is likely to heed the warning of a dead white waycist.
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Can you imagine if the ukraine situation escalates into a full blown shooting war and Russia advances into Western Europe and Britain has conscription? We would be fucked, you could not rely on the youth of today to defend the UK, you would need a Windsor david type of Sargent major, can you imagine the poofery that he would have to deal with?
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If the young are drafted, hopefully they’ll start with amusing cannon fodder such as gaylords who mince around in drag and fat fuckers who’ve never done so much as a moment’s exercise and have the muscle tone of a mount of blancmange.
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Can’t see this kicking off this year. Feels like a distraction, to be honest, but having a cunt like Biden in the White House, you never know. Putin must be pissing himself at all this. I hope it all dies down, as I have relatives in Poland and Lithuania, they’ve been through enough in the last 100 years.
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Zelensky could blow Biden’s (p)residency out of the water if he released the dossier his security servs are holding. Chances of him being alive 7 days later = zero but nevertheless he holds a whip hand here.
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