(A hugely popular topic among the cunters – Day Admin)
That sounds more academic than I mean. I’m not an army person just a layman.
But it seems to me as a layman the West is laying down its arms and fucking off at an awfully rapid speed. Leaving a scene of absolute chaos.
How quickly the Taliban have moved in -everday I see on my newsfeed another town gone, another district under threat. I think the Taliban actually hold many provinces already. It’s only a matter of time surely before they have the whole country under their rule again.
But wasn’t the war on terror about dismantling terrorist training camps in Afghanistan and similar countries in the region. Have we given up on that idea?
Where is the Afghan army in all this? Where are all the ‘government forces’ that we spent so much time and money training? I thought they would be far superior to the Talliban forces equipped to the nines with the latest military gear and tech like the Americans.
Could it be argued we have abandoned the Afghan people? Nobody’s saying anything. Boris? No Biden? No. Just let the thing go it seems.
The only issue is whether we abandon the Afghan interpreters or grant them asylum. And that’s it. No more debate, no more assessments.
But what about all the coffins returning to RAF Lynenam a few years back. Then the cortege through Wootton Bassett. It went on week after week……what for?
Oh well they did their duty.
Nominated by – Miles Plastic
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And more from – Sick of It
After years of interventions and billions of dollars poured into this shit hole, the US, Uk have achieved fuck all. In just a few weeks the Taliban are back ‘capturing’ cities and areas all over the shit hole.
‘Government’ forces are getting nowhere, the country will be back to the same shit it was before the US moved in.
What sort of country in the 21st century still have Warlords ffs
The UK have advised all Brits to get the fuck out ASAP, who would want be there in the first place.
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And this from Sixdog Vomit
The US and UK governments for Afghanistan.
How many UK and US troops have been killed and maimed over the last 20 years? If we had left a stable government capable of holding sway maybe something would have been achieved. Instead we leave the Taliban ready to take over where they left off and the country in the shit.
As I type this the Taliban are taking strategic towns and cities faster than a scouse amateur mechanic can get your car up in bricks.
Some estimates put the cost to the UK at 37 billion.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/30/afghanistan-war-cost-britain-37bn-book
454 Brit service personnel have died there.
https://www.gov.uk/government/fields-of-operation/afghanistan
How many have suffered life changing physical injuries I don’t know let alone how many have been left traumatised.
Worse still all this was predictable, no one wins a long term fight with the Afghan warlords let alone the insanity of Islamic fighters who think dying is a reward in itself.
There are a generation of Afghans who believed that the western way was a better way of life and they are going to be made to suffer by the Taliban in unthinkable ways.
Oddly the BBC have no issues getting interviews with these spawn of Satan murderous fanatics.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58156772
Inevitably some afghans are going to head our way as refugees in genuine fear of their lives and I don’t blame them, I think we (our government) owes them something.
Also inevitably some of the refugees will be fanatics intent on murder once they get here.
I wonder what Tony Blair has to say on the matter, this was your baby, your bastard love child with Bush.
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And yet more.. – Technocunt
With US and UK armed forces pulling out of Afghanistan after 20 odd years of trying to keep the peace, and failing, it made me wonder what exactly is the point of the West getting involved in any future conflicts?
I do realise that some wars – such as the Gulf/Kuwait wars of the early 90s – were probably more to do with the West’s interests in oil than the oppression of innocent civilians.
But by the same token it seems no one likes the West and there have been many calls for the West to keep out of other countries affairs. Moreover, the Left will always demonise the West for getting involved in other people’s conflicts purely out of self interest – especially to do with oil and of course Israel.
Therefore, wouldn’t it be interesting if NATO, the US, the UK and EU armed forces all agreed to keep out of conflicts, and let those countries sort out their own shit. Yes, it may mean thousands of civilian deaths, but fuck it, not our problem!
But you just know those same liberal woke cunts will moan the West isn’t doing enough to help the destitute (no doubt pulling the race card when its appropriate).
Therefore, the West can’t win. If we do get involved, the Left will moan. If we don’t get involved, ditto!
However, given that Sniffer Biden is now the Commander-in-Chief, it will be interesting what he does in terms of current and future conflicts, and how the Left will react to it.
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And another, this time from lord benny(not quite deceased, but close)
Afghanistan,
Well lets face it, its a shit, always been one always will be.
So lets look at the current “Issue’s”……..they are falling apart and shitting bricks.
After 20 years of western intervention (in that period most of the current front line troops will have been born) They have learnt fuck all.
Tribal in fighting, major corruption, Drugs, rogering livestock and little boys, No nothing has changed has it.
Yet for the past couple of days all I have heard on the radio is bleating complaints that they have been abandoned.
FFS! I had 12 years of school education and 3 months military training, they had 20 years, 20 years of having their arses wiped and protected now its gone, all those nice guns and vehicles, the pointless training? fuck that they are dropping the lot an legging it, and its our fault?
No bollocks, I have had enough, they need to sort their shit out and NO you fucking stay there and sort it out, don’t come knocking on my door because you cant be arsed to protect your own.
Guess what? Here’s yet another, Lord of the Rings
Afghanistan (and World governments)
Russia, USA, the UK. Their governments have all sent young men (and;women) into this corrupt shithole of waring tribesmen, each trying to out cunt other.
Thousands of soldiers, some were conscripted (Russians), some wanted to serve their country; maybe learn something for a job (UK), some just signed on the dotted because it’s the only job offer they were likely to get (USA & UK). Sent to be shot at, blown up, never knowing friend from foe, from simple bystander. Lose a foot, a leg, a hand, an arm, an eye, a kidney, or maybe your life.
And all for what ? Fuck all – no change, no point, no sense. The only reason the Afghan tribesmen stopped killing each other and; the general population, was because other countries politicians kindly supplied men in easily identifiable uniforms (with flags on the helmets) to be used for target practice.
Afghans have been fighting and killing each other for centuries – and they aren’t gonna stop now.
Politicians are Cunts and don’t give a fuck about the soldiers they send to die.
Make it law – if they vote to send troops, their kids have to suit up and join the army. Maybe then they’d give a flying fuck.
Lessons have been learned.
Sleepy Joe as been in power for 7 months, everything he has touched as turned to shit.
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No point in trying to make political capital out of what’s happening in Afghanistan. Biden’s only done what Trump was planning to do.
The question that needs to be asked is, what the fuck has the western alliance been doing in that county for the last twenty years? It’s taken the ragheads just two minutes to take over after we pulled out. The Russians gave up after less than ten years, we’ve had twice as long and achieved precisely fuck all.
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Medieval barbaric backwards feral slum.
Thousands of lives lost for absolutely nothing, the Afghan “army” running like rats (smack addicts and taliban make up the Afghan “army” – we pay for them), the taliban are the Government, the Government are the taliban and they are all making billions from the worldwide trafficking of heroin and into the western world via Turkey and Pakistan – THIS is why they are so desperate for control.
The taliban used to be called the mujaheddin in the 80’s when they were receiving CIA funding and arms to fight the Russian invasion, lead fighter being a Mr Bin Laden.
The Americans left Bin Laden to die because he had a lot of dirty secrets the US Government did not want to get out, he escaped and began a long, festering hatred of the US – and we saw the result of his vengeance.
Get all the humans out, close the borders, leave them to it and REMIND THEM POLITELY that if the dirty little bastards start any t*rrorist shit every Government building will be levelled with the fuckers inside it.
You will never, ever get the loyalty of an Afghan – but if you have enough US Dollars you can sure as hell rent it for a while.
Lot of good Men lost there, some of them being people I knew..
All for nothing.
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“…The taliban used to be called the mujaheddin in the 80’s when they were receiving CIA funding”
Bang on the money, they’d sewn up the South American drug transport/importation income stream and now needed the Afghan opium trade. And they wonder why there’s an opiate addiction ‘problem’ in the USA?
Enter stage left the Oded Yinon Plan, dusted off, shorne of its more blatantly psychopathic genocidal ‘inclinations’ and borne on high on a velvet cushion by the likes of Richard fucking Perle, Douglas Fieth, John Kerry, Conned’emleeza Rice and Scooter Libby Leibowitz…
good 9 page summary…
http://ibaness.org/bnejss/2017_03_03/07_Fildi%C5%9F.pdf
…and so it came to pass
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Apparently our wicked overseas aid cutbacks will hit poor Afghanistan. Oh dear, too bad, never mind.
Let the superstitious, evil savages get on with it. Isolate them and their Pakistani allies. Seal the borders.
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The aid will just go straight to the Taliban anyway. Pointless even bothering.
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Theatre.
Look! Look over there!
Give me a fucking break. Weapons don’t grow in dirt or on trees, and primitive people can barely muster a log fire let alone forge gun steel.
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No, they make serious money from heroin, and can buy lots of Russian or Chinese AKs and other toys. Add to that all the western donated stuff the Afghan army dropped before running off and they are doing fine.
Theatre? Of course, the taleban can’t wait for globalisation……
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The situation is about as organic as a McDonald’s burger.
Who do you think ships the drugs out and the weapons in? It’s our intel. The two most lucrative of black markets, perfect for off the books money that can be spent on off the books projects.
Nothing changes. It’s all just theatre of death and misery, for profit.
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This isn’t 1945. Our intel and military can see everything. If they actually wanted to put a stop to it all they could do so tomorrow.
I mean honestly, how the fuck can’t you see that by now? How many failed states does the Anglo-American establishment have to create for you to realise we’re completely full of shit?
We create markets for ourselves by death and destruction, because the cunts at the top are bereft of ideas and take the easy corrupt route.
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How do I not see it? Just lucky I guess.
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I think you have a point tbere BCC. I could never understant the rationale of we have to take over the whole country over to stop these terrorist camps being set up. Surely you dont have to take the whole place over for that? What with satellite surveillance and all the rest.
‘terrorist camps’. They always show that footage of jihadis on an assault course in a camp situation. But most terrorist outrages in the West come from tiny cells making bombs. Many are the lone wolves armed with a kitchen knife.
Say 9/11. The ‘training’ to do that came from books about how to fly a plane. Not can you carry a heavy pack on a 3 day trek.
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TBCC@ – The taliban now have some of the best weapons and technology in the world, left deliberately by the part of the taliban known as “The Afghan Army” 🤣🤡 who went AWOL just when they were needed.
And we paid for the very weapons which will now be turned against us.
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BCC – actually, some of the finest amateur gunsmiths work in the Swat valley and can knock up a replica handgun or rifle as easily as Charlie Chan can do a Louis Vuitton handbag.
Seriously impressive when you consider that they still make their houses out of dried shit.
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The least this government should do is allow the Afghan interpreters and thier close family asylum in this country. If not they will be killed when found. They are true refugees whose lives are in grave danger, who are applying through the proper channels for asylum and have aided our armed forces in battle, not the economic migrant cunts who roll up on our beaches every day. But this government do not give a fuck for those who have helped our forces or fought for this country they would rather allow illegal cunts entry instead.
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Not much mention of the Stanley’s in all this. They will hopefully get their just desserts for backing the Taliban over the years despite denying it.
Sure, many other surrounding countries have supplied arms over the years but I always suspect the Stanley’s to be implicit in everything.
Let’s face it, there is no solution and the future looks bleak for the west.
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No need to suspect, it is obvious they did. They played host to Bin Laden himself did they not?
The Stanleys never want to see Afghanistan prosper so they do everything to destabilise it. As has been said, hope it bites them in the arse.
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“Our Troops did not die in vain” says the Jellyfish.
Shut up! You cunt.
If that’s all you’ve got to say just shut the fuck up.
Oh, and fucking resign and go and earn some proper money. That slag of yours has expensive tastes and sending her brats to Eton won’t be cheap.
You fucking cunt.
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Too right. What a lying, useless, insulting cunt that fat turd is.
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Boris is a cunt. Our troops not dying in vain? 454 of them died for fuck all to change, many more wounded and with PTSD. Boris should have fucking done his 6 months over there and see what it was like. Total turd
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Thing is, when the shit really hits the fan, even more of the filthy, backwards, barbaric cunts will be clamoring to paddle the channel and settle here. Diversity is our strength. Fuck off, and fuck off some more.
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The Taliban top brass was never eliminated. Lots of good field commanders eliminated but the main men just sat pretty in Pakistan building businesses etc. Pakistan was always a place of refuge for Taliban combatants if injured etc.
Yet Pakistan is the country which has been receiving the largest amount of British foreign aid. Even the yanks withheld some of their aid due to Pakistan’s persistence in supporting rabid militants.
One could also add that the U.K. and other governments appear to have looked on the Taliban as a collection of goat fucking , murdering bandits when in fact as has been proven recently they are more than capable of sustained organised operations with all the backup such ops demand. The really want their Islamic state and I think they might get it, which will be bad news for many Afghans and Kent Count Council
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“more than capable of sustained organised operations with all the backup such ops demand”
In a nutshell. And no longer using jezails but the finest hardware Russia, China, Iran and others* can supply (for a bag of scag – the business seems to be thriving still, despite Blair selling intervention to the dumb fucks in the commons as being intended to get the Afghans to raise cuddly bunnies instead of poppies)
*Notably Saudi, probably selling them stuff we sold to Saudi in the first place.
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Bugger should have been Kent County Council.
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I am waiting for the deployment of Chinese “military consultants” in Afghanistan – the deeper the Chinese get drawn into that cesspit the better – the Chinese have finally met a people just as devious, inhuman and evil as they are.
Pull up chair, open popcorn.
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Exactly what I thought, Vern.
I’d give it about 7 years, and there will be a Taliban MP standing for election in Cardiff Central.
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We’ve had Green Talibannies standing for election for years.
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A couple of my friends fought these bastards and ended up with PTSD. Now, what for? One ended up with a RPG lauched at him on top of a mosque. Cheers Tony Blair, Envoy of Middle Eastern Peace.
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Miles said;
– ‘I thought they would be far superior to the Talliban forces equipped to the nines with the latest military gear and tech like the Americans.’
I remember reading something similar by Max Hastings during the South Ossetia crisis in 2008. The Georgians were supposedly equipped with the latest NATO kit.
They’d prove too much for the Ruskies and their cold war era tanks.
It took the Russians about a week to clobber the Georgians who thought NATO would back them up, while no cunt in the west lifted a finger and the EU shat themselves (as usual).
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We should give up out imperial adventures that are disguised as ‘humanitarian intervention’.
That game belongs to Clinton and Blair.
In contrary to what the remainers think, Brexit is not about rebuilding the British Empire, as it was run at a loss. It’s about cutting our losses The remainers are the ones who support this sort of neo-imperialism, just as the EU is a neo-imperilaist enterprise.
Britain no longer has the manpower, money or public support to carry on these pointless adventures. The QE class carriers are complete waste of money and without the necessary missile destroyers and hunter killer submarines in sufficient numbers, sitting ducks. We shouldn’t be in this game of global power projection. It’s completely deluded.
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Of course it is. The cunts dont want to pay tax to the UK Government to build a strong miltary they want to lick a raghead.
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Toby Keith song , The Taliban Man
Sums up the poor Afghanistan people who just want a quiet life in their cave and can look at their wife’s face in public without hijab on and not have to fear that simplicity.
Looks like there be a flood of of people running
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Our lads should never have gone to the shitheap in the first place. A total waste of time and money. Who gives a fuck what the Taliban do? Why is it our problem? After September 11th, they made a big deal about a ‘war on terror’ (Ha Fucking Ha). But the invasion of Afghanistan was just so much window dressing. It achieved nothing and those camel sodomising human filth have run amok in Paris, Manchester, London, and numerous innocent people have been raped and murdered in the last twenty years. There was no point at all in going to Afghanistan. Fuck knows why the Ivans wanted to invade the dump either. They should have nuked the bloody place and saved our armed forces a lot of trouble.
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I wouldnt be surprises if they paid them to be fair.
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Absolutely CCtCM they have come to an arrangement with the Taliban for withdrawal
They better get there skates on though as the Taliban Man has Dead Lines
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I can’t add much to what has been said so well already. My only two points are, I thought the point of this war was to continue until the opposition surrenders and agrees to dismantle the means of carrying out any future conflicts, EG surrendering arms, and the command structure disassembled. Turns out that while the cities were secured, the Taliban just congregated in country regions, still fully armed and with the same commanders, waiting for this moment. And look what happened…
My other point is, if this a war was because of, and mainly funded by, sales of opiates, why don’t we just burn the poppy fields on a regular basis before they can be harvested, and thereby take away most of the funding? We must know where they are and with the use of drones, there would be zero casualties (on our side anyway, and that is all that matters) I know this is a bit simplistic as the Taliban raise funds other ways, but this would severely limit them financially
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Islam at its best. Let the fuckers get on with it and keep out. These muslim countries are only happy when they are killing their own and others. Bollocks to them.
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Seems that Afghanistan is now fully in control by the Taliban. The US and UK are apparently gobsmacked at how fast the takeover was, and are “accelerating plans” to get their respective nationals out of the country.
60 nations have signed an agreement suggesting that Afghan nationals should be allowed free passage out of the country and the seek asylum where they wish.
Plenty of criticism aimed at Biden and BlowJob for the way they have abandoned the country to Taliban/Islamic forces. Respective governments have refuted such statements with the usual “not our fault” tropes.
It will be very interesting how the MSM and other woke libtards react to Biden and his “washing his hands of Afghanistan” actions.
Towelhead Lives Matter
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Another US success just like Vietnam
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On the bright side even the woke US media are mad at Biden and this will help trump get back in.
Why we bothered to try and make a difference to a few million people perfectly happy in the dark ages will never cease to amaze me.
As a neighbour who went there tole me in 2005 ” waste of time, waste of money and waste of people ”
Thanks Blair- cunt.
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Fat boy Anjem has been having a mega wank over the taliban!
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We should send shit head Corbyn gift wrapped to the taliban with the message “this bearded prick wants to be your tea boy!”
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