I´ve just finished reading a massive biography of Napoleon* and could not help but think how “nationalist” leaders don´t always come from the country they profess to love.
Napoleon, for example, was a Corsican whose exploits led to the deaths of millions of Frenchmen. Other outsiders include Hitler, an Austrian, and Stalin, a Georgian, both of whom butchered their adopted countrymen by the million.
Douglas Haig, the commander of the British forces in WW1, was said to have been Scotland´s greatest patriot as his disastrous tactics led to more English deaths than in all the centuries of warfare between the two countries.
Most royal families in Europe have little if any native blood. For example, Prince Philip is a naturalized British citizen of Greek and Danish descent who took the surname Mountbatten. That name is an anglicized version of Battenberg and was adopted during WWI to dissociate the royals from Germany. Many people at that time would have remembered that Queen Victoria´s husband, Albert, was a German.
It´s also interesting to think how many “national” leaders were born with one foreign parent or in another country. Churchill was half American, Trump is half Scottish, Obama is half Kenyan, de Valera was half Spanish and born in New York, Ben-Gurion was born in Poland and Verwoerd in Holland. Former Australian PMs Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott were born in Wales and England, respectively. There must be hundreds of other examples.
* “Napoleon the Great” by Andrew Roberts. If you can´t face over 900 pages the BBC has a series of podcasts summarizing the book. Be warned though. The author thinks the suns shines out of Bonaparte´s arse.
Nominated by: Mr Polly
Boris Johnson is a quarter Turkish….’bout time the wanker fucked off back there…plus his old Cunt of a father.
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Im a big fan of Napoleon!!
3 different flavour ice creams in one?..magical!!👍👍
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Bonie may have been a cunt, but he got stuck in and he loved a rumble. Was also one for the ladies apparently. Wonder if Josephine had nice knockers?
In the 80s Asda did a Neopolitan ice cream, but the yellow bit was banana flavoured. Fucking ace, that was.
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I had Turkish Delight ice cream the other day Norman.
Lovely.
Bet Napoleon never had that!
The little french cunt.
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Brilliant MNC 😂
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Boris was born in America, so he can fuck off there too.
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I don’t care where he was born, I just wish he’d fuck off. Almost as useless as May but at least that cunt never raised any expectations.
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So was churchill, but at least Winston stood up for Britain, boris is a wet fart in the underpants of British history
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Fake news – Churchill was born at Blenheim Palace, Oxfordshire UK.
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Churchill wasn’t born in the UK but he did have an American mother. If only we had him around to save us now.
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Evening General. I think you meant to say “Churchill was born in the UK”, yes?
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Haha yes I did. Stupid brain. Evening RTC.
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Dead right. He was born in New York and, despite being the epitome of the upper-class English twit, claims to be descended from a Circassian slave girl sold to a Turkish ancestor.
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To be fair (which I’m loathe to be) Boris is one eighth Turkish.
Seven eighth’s English… yet he should fuck off to Turkey? What sort of crooked logic is that?
His cunt of a father is a quarter Turkish.
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de Valera was a cunt. When Churchill said to the Irish government that Hitler was the biggest threat and that the UK and Eire should forget their differences and fight the Nazis together (a bit like we did with the Ivans). But that cunt de Valera would have none of it. Instead he let U-Boats dock at Irish ports and the Krauts got a warm welcome and cooperation in Potatoland. The band of Irishmen who did fight with the British Army in World War II were seen as ‘traitors’ by de Valera and his toadies. Only very recently have the Irish government ‘pardoned’ these men and rightfully acknowledged them as heroes.
What a fucking disgrace that dump is.
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My Uncle Jimmy was one of them.
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De Cuntera went to sign Hitler’s book of condolence as well. Evil little shit.
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I would love to see the Irish economy bankrupted, fuck them, homo leo and the catholic church, they will be begging for the uk pound to get them out of the shit, cunts all of them, and take u2 and westlife and fuck right off
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To be fair sidthes i would not say the 50. 000 Irish who died serving britain in world war 1 where cunts. 1/4 of the british army at waterloo where irish.so come lets give them credit.
The republic was once part of the uk. Now i know i will be unpopular with some people on this site, but the irish served in the british army for hundreds of years. However most people dont know that because the irish dont get any recognition. For example there are all sorts of tv shows that big up the contribution of blacks and asians in the british army, but that has never been done for the irish. I wonder how many people know that the irish served in the zulu wars. In zulu alot of credit is given to the welsh regiment, but in real life there where as many Irish. Yet the people who made the film ignored that fact. Anyone i have said my bit.
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That should have been, anyway i have said my bit. When you type fast its very easey to spell things wrong.
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Norman the republic should have stayed part of the uk. It should never have left the union. Yes you are right Dev was a cunt. But people would be surprised to know that many people wanted to stay in the uk. However the unionist voice in the republic was not listened to.
If the rebublic had of been given a chance to vote ,they would have voted to stay in the uk. However unlike scotland the irish where never given that chance. Many people in the republic have a great deal of respect for britain. Yet people now think every one in the republic is anti british and dont understand the links beetween britain and Ireland.
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Corsica was ceded to France the year before Napoleon’s birth in 1769, thus making him a Frenchman. But hey, I’m not going to pick nits.
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On the 200 anniversary of Waterloo all the bbc could come up with was a history of Napoleon. A man responsible for 7 million dead. When the population of Europe was a quarter it was in 1939.
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The world has been full of leaders who’ve screwed up countries they were not born in. Two of them who fucked up England were Blair and Brown. I can’t quite recall where they were born.
PS. I’ve no objection to the Wee Krankie fuckin’ up her own country.
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Trouble is, England will have to pay.
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I just wish the English, Welsh and Northern Irish could have a vote
Would you like Scotland to Fuck Off.
Yes, yes, yes!!
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Right then , just stop just stop, that is too sensible, you have just made wee miss krankie piss her knickers, she wants Scotland to be it’s own nation…bit like Harvey price becoming a nuclear physicist..its never going to happen
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After the catastrophic Russian invasion, the cunts had him back. Says a lot about our French nieghbours.
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Prince Philip is a first generation immigrant. Jug Ears and his siblings are second generation gimmegrants. William is a third generation parasite.
Harry’s in the clear cos both his idiot parents were natives. Unless someone knows different.
When the Queen croaks Kate should ascend the throne. I’d fuck her 24/7 no holes barred if she were up for it.
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When the Liz croaks, there will be a call for the next Queen to be a ‘queen’, need more diversity in Royals (probably a black queen)
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Id give Kate 3minutes of wheezing, out of breathe, unskilled, fumbling, rough sex!
That only id enjoy
And thats with a viagra!!
And id leave my chewing gum in her hair.
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I actually am dreading the day when Elizabeth II dies.
She’s the last tie to the old Britain. Charles will be old and useless and then the woke William will get the job.
Kate would get it though, I agree.
Every which way but loose.
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You’re certainly right about Andrew Roberts Mr P. From the tv series I watched he absolutely worships Napoleon. I thought he was going to burst into tears handling the little corporal’s personal effects on Elba.
I think it’s worth mentioning Mr Roberts isn’t very tall.
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Mmm, he also likes Tom cruise, warwick Davies, and wrote a book on Don Estell!
Hes a Dwãrf groupie Miles!!
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I’m reading his book on Churchill right now and whilst I highly recommend it there certainly is an element of sucking off Napoleon in there.
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