Ukraine


I think we will all (hopefully) agree that Putin is a cunt, so this page has been set up to allow you to vent your feelings about the current invasion and occupation of Ukraine

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  1. Just for information purposes:-

    NATO – currently consists of 30 countries, and was setup in 1949 to prevent any Soviet incursion into Western Europe. And Article 5 suggests that if any member State is attacked then all other member States will collectively come to the defence of that State.

    In terms of membership, any independent European country can apply just so long as it is a contributor towards security in Europe. The country must also tick certain economic, political and military conditions.

    Ukraine isn’t a NATO member, but has expressed an interest. However, as a consequence NATO can’t intervene military until it does become a member.

    Ukraine did apply for membership in 2008 but this was scuppered by former president, Viktor Yanukovych, who wanted nothing to do with NATO. But he fucked off in 2014 amid Russian hostilities and social unrest.

    Ukraine expressed a desire to apply for membership again, but some NATO countries (France and Germany) felt that the Ukraine was still politically unstable to be considered, especially from Putin who was already getting pissed off with the idea of NATO expanding eastwards back in 2014

    Every single NATO country has to agree an application before membership is granted. If one country says “No!” then the application is refused.

    Albania
    Belgium
    Bulgaria
    Canada
    Croatia
    Czech Rep
    Denmark
    Estonia
    France
    Germany
    Greece
    Hungary
    Iceland
    Italy
    Latvia
    Lithuania
    Luxembourg
    Montenegro
    Netherlands
    North Macedonia
    Norway
    Poland
    Portugal
    Romania
    Slovakia
    Slovenia
    Spain
    Turkey
    United Kingdom
    United States

    https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/why-isnt-ukraine-already-in-nato-heres-what-it-takes-to-join-the-30-country-alliance/articleshow/89915085.cms

    • Makes you wonder how come France is a member, the cunts only ever go backwards. And how the fuck does Albania qualify???

      “The country must also tick certain economic, political and military conditions.”

      The conditions must be really stringent (sarc.)

      • Greece too, unless one of those economic conditions stipulates that Stavros’s grandchildren’s grandchildren will still be in hock to ze Germans.

      • If Russia attacked Albania they would be welcome to it, drug dealing gangster nation 👍

      • The Wops have always been grease- ball, gesticulating, gobshite, mummies boy cowards in my experience.

  2. Seems that Iran has now waded in with the usual anti-western rhetoric with its leader Ayatollah Ali Sheepshagger suggesting that Ukraine is a victim of aggressive US policy and suggesting Washington has “meddled internal affairs of the country, setting up demonstrations against the governments, creating velvet revolutions, creating colour coup d’etats”

    So all of a sudden the war of words has spread towards the Middle-East, and no doubt Israel will be chipping in sooner or later.

    But one thing I do know, is that the Ukraines are tough proud and patriotic bastards, and I would rather have a family of those on my doorstep than some scumbag economic migrants, or white chav scumbags who contribute little but want everything!

    • Funny, innit? The only times I have really fancied fucking an underage white girl was when I was an underage white boy. And going to a boy’s Grammar School for didn’t exactly grant me access to them.

  3. The Russian Defence Ministry has announced that the attack on Kyiv is to be intensified shortly.
    People working in government buildings and those living close by them and other important infrastructure, have been warned to get away.
    Surely, the forty mile long convoy of Russian armour is a massive humanitarian threat, therefore a legitimate target.
    There comes a time when the bully has to be bullied.
    NATO should wipe it out.
    Should the shit stabbing dwĂŁrf in the Kremlin go nuclear, then the West should press every button on the box.
    And let’s be done with it.
    Fuck Putin.
    And that fat cunt, Lavrov.

  4. Apparently it was a certain Hiram Johnson who said “The first casualty when war comes is truth.”
    RasPutin says that Ukraine were looking to develop nuclear weapons to threaten his country.
    Someone somewhere will actually believe that.

    • No they didn’t. It just suited them to pretend to believe it.
      I wonder if sitting on that fence is painful?
      I so hope so.

    • First of all it was ‘we’re not going to invade Ukraine, but we will be pissed off if they join NATO’
      Then it was ‘this is a limited action to prevent further massacres of Russian friendly people in the east’
      Today it’s about nuclear weapons.
      More bullshit excuses that a child would come up with.

      To all honest decent progressive people in Russia. Please find your leader and give him the slow end he deserves. Without Putin your country could be wonderful, with Putin the whole world isn’t safe.

    • Ukraine must be ruing the day (1994) they agreed to give up their nuclear weapons.

      The moral of this story: hang onto your nukes, you never know when the Pounshop Hitler wannabe next door will go for a land grab.

      • Yes nuclear weapons are certainly a hell of a deterrent to any would be foreign invaders.

        If only countries such as Iraq and Afghanistan had had nukes when the deliverers of western democracy fancied an illegal occupation.
        Imagine how many innocent people wouldn’t have been killed for fuck all.
        Members of the military included

        Iraq had terrifying WMD’s of course which could be set upon the west within 15 minutes apparently but they weren’t a large enough deterrent for whatever reason.

      • Evening HJ. Do you seriously believe that the world would have been a safer place if the taleban or Saddam Hussein had owned nuclear weapons? Iran are halfway there, is that a good thing or bad. It doesn’t excuse western action in either case, but do you think a different, more cataclysmic conflict might have occurred?

      • Evening GJ

        The world a safer place with the likes of Saddam and the Taliban in control of nukes? – No certainly not mate.

        I’m just fucking about and playing devils advocate.
        Although saying that, Pakistan have nukes, which I’ll admit I have always found a bit more concerning than the likes of the Ruskies having them.

      • I too don’t like the idea of a corrupt religious nation like Pakistan having anything more dangerous than a snowball, but I think if they were ever going to be used it would be against India..
        Talking of Pakistan, that slimy bastard Imran Khan did a deal earlier with Putin to buy millions of tons of grain, as well as oil. If a penny of UK aid is sent there, we would be enabling our own downfall. Again.

      • “Iraq had terrifying WMD’s … but they weren’t a large enough deterrent for whatever reason.”

        Because they never existed. (Mohammed Attah goes to Prague… handed phials of ‘Iraqi’ anthrax… etc… all courtesy of Mossad naturally!)

  6. Justin Timberlake is the latest star to offer support. He’s so annoyed that he’s going out there to fight for the Ukraine. Fair play.

    I hear he’s off to the Crimea River.

  9. Just read the results of a poll from Talk Radio regarding Russia Today news channel.

    Question was should it be censored?
    58 percent said ‘No’ they have a right to freedom of expression/information.
    The rest were ‘Yes’ and ‘Don’t know’

    I imagine it will be censored of course.

    • Mike and Kevin were doing so well with being critical about covid, yet both have been sucked in by this new hysteria.

      The one MSM station that was just about tolerable. This is the level the presenters are at now, no retort beyond emotional flagellation: https://youtu.be/nVavjrOn_R0

      • Well Covid has certainly all but disappeared.

        In the words of the late great Tommy Cooper – “just like that!”

      • The classic example of an echo chamber. Like them when they agree with you, cancel them as soon as the don’t. Whatever happened to respecting someone else’s opinion?
        I have good friends who I completely disagree with on certain things, but I prefer to have a debate, and test the level of my convictions. Sometimes they are demonstrably right, and I am a little bit wiser.

      • You’re a broken record mate, give it a rest.

        The presenter had literally no intellectual retort to the callers opinion. He couldn’t retort because he evidently knew nothing, like most of our media hacks.

        None of them are discussing the history. It’s all one-sided emotional gobshite, aka propaganda. Haven’t heard a single one even discuss the possibility that our meddling might have a part to play.

        Absolutely nothing on the corruption either. Biden says what..

        Make your point without insulting or attacking other commentors or you won’t be making it at all. That’s called trolling. Final warning – Admin

      • Covid is certainly going in the right direction, still lots of testing and many positive, hospitalisations going down. I won’t mention deaths for fear of the ‘with Covid or of Covid’ and still people taking the vaccine although it is declining rapidly.
        I don’t think it is forgotten but as it isn’t winning it is no longer news and for some reason the media have lost interest.

      • Both Mike and Kevin were (and still are) pro Covid vaccination.

        Surprised that alone didn’t put them beyond the pale, let alone their support for Ukraine.

      • Covid may be not top of the bill on the news, but it’s not forgotten.
        Today the HSE turned up at work to see if we were still doing everything to Katherine workforce safe from Covid.
        Fucksake.

  10. ‘To understand the Putin you must become the Putin’

    Where are those Jimmy Somerville tapes?

  11. The Vladimir Putin Calendar, 2022

    On many occasions in the past, the wife has informed me that she subscribes to the ‘a hard man is good to find’ point of view. I can appreciate that, and always try to live up to her expectations.

    Nevertheless, I understand that like me, she has her flights of fancy. Mine tend to stray often to the eye-popping Selma Hayek, so I can’t blame her if hers tend to stray to a rippling male torso.

    To that effect, I intend to show that I’m a liberal minded sort of bloke, and I’ve sent off for a gift for her that I’m sure will set her heart all aflutter. It’s a Vlad Putin pin-up calendar, and apparently they’re going like hot cakes, so don’t waste a second. Get your order in now if you don’t want to disappoint the little lady in your life.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bIdy3hielA

  12. The Russian aggressors are going to be remembered and hated for all eternity by the people of Ukraine for this.

    No matter what the outcome is.

  13. It had to come of course. The African Union, whatever the fuck it is, has complained that Africans trying to get out of Ukraine are being discriminated against and not being allowed to cross borders.

    “Reports that Africans are singled out for unacceptable dissimilar treatment would be shockingly racist and in breach international law. In this regard, the (African Union) Chairpersons (sic) urge all countries to respect international law and show the same empathy and support to all people fleeing war notwithstanding their racial identity,” it said in a statement. The UNHCR which is responsible for refugees has denied this report which was on the BBC of course.

    Thousands of Ukrainians and their families are fleeing imminent death yet Africans “students” want special treatment.

    Meanwhile, the BBC is also reporting that “The powerful son of Uganda’s President Yoweri Museveni, Lt Gen Muhoozi Kainerugaba, has expressed support for the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Gen Kainerugaba – who is the commander of Uganda’s land forces – tweeted that “the majority of mankind (that are non-white) support Russia’s stand in Ukraine”.

    The link is too ,long to copy but here´s the headline if you want to check it out.
    Museveni’s son supports Russian invasion of Ukraine

  14. Reading some of the comments in the Telegraph, Times and Indie, suggesting that we (Boris and the UK) should ignore Nato conventions and simply go into the Ukraine all guns blazing and kick the Russians out, and worry about the repercussions afterwards!

    I’m sure some of these people are either trolls, have the intelligence of a grasshopper, or just believe its the right thing to do. But they seem to believe this is just like some first-person-shoot-em-up video game: if you get killed and everything goes tits up, just click reload and start again!

    Boris is definitely a knob-cheese but I have to respect his diplomacy, especially yesterday when he was confronted by a woman demanding to know why the West can’t simply help out militarily.

    Boris played it very well and followed the “rules of diplomacy during conflict”. Had he let slip and even remotely suggested “Yes, military intervention is a possibility!” then he would have been hung, drawn and quartered not only by our MSM, but also the EU, NATO and every other organisation under the sun.

    Moreover, had he said that Putin would have gone ape shit even more, and who knows, could unleash hell not only on the Ukraine but other former Soviet countries. And then people would have screamed “Reckless talk costs lives. You have blood on your hands, Boris!”

    I think a PM earns around ÂŁ160k per year, or thereabouts, and fucking hell he earns it when compared to the usual suspects (Chief Exec of Birmingham City Council “earns” around ÂŁ220k)

    • I agree Boris has played this well for the UK. He is channeling his inner-Churchill. We seem to have credibility in Eastern Europe and with the Baltic states, who trust us more than the French and the Germans.

      Truss and Wallace have also come out well. When the Russians blame Truss for their decision to go on nuclear standby, it’s clear that she has got under their skin.

      • Speaking as one of Johnson’s harshest critics I agree that he has performed surprisingly well during this crisis, his words and their delivery have been impressive, impossible to imagine Starmer rising to the challenge in a similar fashion.

      • Compare and contrast with the following:-

        Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi confuses Ukraine for Hungary

        Diane Abbott believes it was Croatia that has been invaded

        and of course, Biden and the Iranians!

        (I could supply appropriate links but I think WordFence will block my post with multiple links. A Google search will work though)

      • Truss is out of her meagre depth and is someone who never comes out of anything well…unless it’s claiming expenses or silly overseas trips…..foreign sec my balls.

        Amateur hour with Liz Truss.

        Cunt.

      • @Spanky
        She is an embarrassing, especially given that she’s on the worldstage representing the UK.

        But I can’t say I’m surprised. It is very rare to find a government minister who actually has any knowledge/experience of the Department he is overseeing..

        Most are just career politicians straight out of university or some back-office job, and then suddenly become elevated from a person with 2:1 BA honours degree in Netflix Studies, to Secretary of State for Defence!

  15. Diane Abbot is still a cunt.
    BBC politics live had our wonderful geographically enlightened and numeracy expert The Flabbott on.
    As usual the thick as fuck fried chiggun destroyer made herself look a complete twat by claiming that Putin shouldn’t be rolling tanks into CROATIA.
    She really shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a camera, a microphone, or indeed parliament.

    https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1498685488328282119?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1498685488328282119%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Feurope%2F2022%2F03%2F01%2Fwatch-eu-ussr-soviet-russia-energy-minister-cant-remember-who-the-enemy-is-this-week%2F

  16. Much talk of NATO being a defensive organisation, can’t intervene, etc. etc.
    It didn’t stop them from bombing Yugoslavia in 1999 ( without UN approval ) even though no NATO country had been attacked.
    I can only conclude that they are intimidated by Russia.
    The ‘ defensive organisation ‘ line is bollocks.

    • Funnily enough I was having a good talk with a Romanian IT friend of mine last night, and he brought this very subject up!

      Seems that NATO didn’t get the okay from the UN Security Council prior to them getting involved. However, according to the article below “the NATO bombing was illegal but legitimate”

      Needless to say this all happened under the watch of Sir Tony Cunt and Bill “Cumstain” Clinton

      https://theconversation.com/kosovo-disputes-continue-20-years-after-nato-bombing-campaign-113669

      • Serbia pretty much had Kosovo annexed from them and handed over to Albanians in 2008 thanks to the UN.

        I remember at the time Putin saying that it set a dangerous precedent.

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t0D1sKalkAE

        Seems there are cunts and always have been cunts on all sides unfortunately.

    • This is a valid point, however, the rationale for the NATO attack was at least comparable with the (IMO unsustainable) argument for fighting the Russians over Ukraine. And the Serbs didn’t have nukes.

      It would be interesting to see how far Russia swung from “our Slav brethren” to “those fascist swine” if Serbia decided to join NATO, wouldn’t it?

      As regards UN agreement, this becomes impossible if the Russians are doing the mayhem, because Russia has a permanent seat on the Security Council, guaranteed by the original charter. Similarly, the Russians would find it hard to obtain UN permission to respond should the US start a crafty war.

    • Excellent stuff CG 👍

      Jimmy’s podcasts are often well worth a listen.

      • Yes, he’s a good egg. I think YouTube is blocking him from getting 1 million subscribers and their algorithm is biased towards his videos.

      • ” I think YouTube is blocking him from getting 1 million subscribers and their algorithm is biased towards his videos.”

        Of course they are, because they are owned, controlled and policed by a hostile foreign power.

    • 400 odd posts in and we finally have the first mention of the Minsk Agreement and Ukraine’s wholesale piss-taking thereof.

      Well I was going to get to the end of the comments and then compile an A4 sized post but yer man’s pretty much nailed most of the points I was going to raise.

  18. Putin admirers.

    I’m venturing this as a nom outside of the Ukraine war sidebar. It is of course connected, but tangental.

    It amazes me that there have been so many who for so long have admired the kleptomaniac, blood drenched oriental despot Putin.

    In France he’s a hero and an inspiration. With the exception of Macron (who I think has a sneaking regard for Putin and regards his grievances as legitimate), all the current presidential candidates are bona-fide Putin admirers. Zemour wants to be like him. The German establishment has, until now, admired him. Trump thinks he’s great. In this country he has many admirers, from Comrade Corbyn to Sir Nigel Farrage. And, let’s be honest, he’s had many admirers on ISAC.

    This speaks of some Western malady and loss of confidence, when we admire a despot. Hitler was of course widely admired in the UK establishment before WWII.

    Now Putin stands revealed for what he has always been – a megalomaniac cunt. And his many previous admirers have been shown as having poor judgement on this question. I’m pleased most of them have realised their error. To err is human. But I still believe Putin has many admirers, and I find this incredible.

    https://unherd.com/2022/03/putin-has-secured-a-macron-victory/

    • Sorry meant to post this in Noms.

      You’re not losing it, MMCM. You did post it on the Noms page. As Dio said, we moved it here. The Ukraine deal is heavy stuff, so we’re trying to keep that material in one place and let the main nominations act as some light relief. Speaking of relief, have you enjoyed today’s Summer Umbrella pic? – NA.

    • I love Russian movies, but as for the Kremlin, KGB, Putin and his gremlins, not my cup of tea, but who should lead Russia when this new insanity is over? Not up to us, the Russian people should decide.

  19. She doesn’t deserve a cunting but that Daria Kaleniuk is acting a twat.

    Just because her country is at war doesn’t mean British pilots shoot on the Russian Air force. How the fuck do we enforce a no-fly zone with our two Typhoons and and an umbrella?

    Then this morning she says ‘maybe don’t shoot the planes but the missiles’.

    How should we go about that then, Rommel?

    Wind your neck in love.

    • Don’t underestimate the power of the British umbrella.

      It served that officer well on A Bridge Too Far when he walked along tapping his umbrella on the bridge to detect Nazi bombs.

    • I think we have three Typhoons and a wheelbarrow to carry the parts around…a rainbow wheelbarrow of course.

      We scrapped the Tornado fleet which was built around just this sort of warfare if, God forbid we become involved….

      Harrier, Nimrod and even the E3 Sentry have all been “retired” or reduced so that MPs can claim yet more expenses and the NHS can do those urgent gender re-assignment operations.

      Makes me sick.

      • Point of order- the E3 Sentry hasn’t yet been retired. Scrapping was delayed. Our two and NATO’s own fleet are currently and pretty continuously active near the Ukraine border The scheduled replacement (E7 Wedgetail) should be along in 2023.

        The Nimrod’s replacement (RC-135 “Rivet Joint”) is also currently monitoring the Ukraine border, along with US and even, occasionally French (!) surveillance assets. Scrapping the NImrod was the act of a complete cunt, but Rivet Joint carries excellent kit and plenty of operator positions.

        The Eurofighter/Typhoon over its evolution has been given good ground-strike capability and although perhaps a more focused fighter than the Tornado, was designed for operation in the context of a European land war, which is what we’re looking at now

      • My hope is that someone takes him out before he gets to that. His conduct does seem to have a Hitler’s last days feel to it.

      • Judging by some of the people raising objections in Russia, I think Putin may be very near his expiry date

      • It’s only a matter of time HBH. I just hope it happens before he gets his hands on the big red button.

    • The nightmare scenario is that Putin is suffering from a terminal medical condition and he really doesn’t care if anyone remains alive after he dies. The 10 meter exclusion zone he’s built around himself suggests that, rather than being scared of Covid*, he’s immunocompromised either by therapy or a disease itself. Check the puffy face, too.

      *which he obviously isn’t, coz he’s brave and strong, wrestles bears and really, really, doesn’t wear high-lift shoes.

  21. My wife loves her social media, unfortunately, but she is telling me that a lot of her “friends” are posting about their children suffering mental health issues, anxiety and stress hearing about the Ukraine war.

    Some “friends” have had to take their kids out of schools due to their trauma; and a couple have actually complained to the BBC and Sky News about the War!

    • Sadly, I have to believe that. The power of a good narrative, eh? I don’t recall much trauma during Iraq 2003. Was that generation stronger, perhaps, or was the media bias different? No need to answer that.

      Although I 100% condemn the illegal invasion of Ukraine (for what my opinion is worth – bugger-all), I have to say that Ukraine, as an ex-FSU country which only escaped Moscow’s control in 2014, still has an excellent propaganda machine as well as some of the most unsavoury oligarchs, enriched by the sale of Russian and Ukrainian state assets, on the planet. Ukraine may have the moral high ground, but it is not unassailable.

      I tend to be sceptical of both sides these days.

      • I think you’ll find that Ukraine achieved its independence in August 1991.

      • A couple of points.
        The 2003 Iraq invasion was before the age of social media, so you could ignore it to a large extent, plus the fact that today’s crisis has the very distinct possibility of going nuclear, and going well beyond the theatre. Even then, a million people marched against it, so there definitely was a strong feeling about it.
        The media coverage I have seen in the last week (BBC and Sky) has been restrained as you would hope in an event like this, and all claims made by Ukraine have come with caveats such as “government sources claim” or “unconfirmed reports state”
        Contrast that with the shit that RT has been shovelling, such as that Ukraine have been bombing their own cities and blaming it on Russia.

      • @ GJ, good points, well made. Agreed re. social media, I hadn’t taken that into account. Can’t speak for TV coverage as I don’t have one, but I had noticed the caveats on other news reports, and welcome them: they were absent from coverage of Iraq., as was much to do with displaced civilians, especially the Iraqi Kurds who now run so many of our fast-food joints.

        As to the million march, sure, but the sentence I was addressing was Technocunt’s: “Some “friends” have had to take their kids out of schools due to their trauma; and a couple have actually complained to the BBC and Sky News about the War!”

        Marching on the Russian Embassy might have been (though only slightly) more productive.

      • RTC, I think you were assuming I was unaware of Ukraine’s titular, and not always actual independence. I wasn’t. Thank you all the same.

    • @ Techno

      A sobering post.

      If we don’t get chance to pause for breath between each worldwide crisis and the 24-7 blanket media coverage which accompanies it then what chance have the young kids got?

      I remember watching Thread’s when I was about 10 and scaring the shit out of myself.

      • @ RTC
        I think you’ll find Viktor Fedorovych Yanukovych, President from 2010, and whose support base was in the Donbass, was removed in 2014’s Orange Revolution due to his pro-Russian realignment. I was referring to that. He was very definitely Moscow’s man – look him up.

      • I don’t doubt it K. I was referring to the fact that Ukraine became an independent state in 1991, formalised with a referendum in December 1991, following the collapse of the USSR.

      • (Losing my way with the comments limit here – duplicated for clarity:)

        RTC, I think you were assuming I was unaware of Ukraine’s titular, and not always actual independence. I wasn’t. Thank you all the same.
        And Yanukovych’s planned return from Russia, where he has been living since Ukraine escaped Russian control in 2014:

        https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/ukraine-conflict/1646230368-russia-reportedly-seeks-to-reinstate-ukraine-s-ex-president

      • They could have avoided all this unpleasantness if they hadn’t given up their nukes in 1994…

      • I remember watching Threads in my late 20s and scaring the shit out of myself.

        Stick your ‘Black Mirror’ up your arse, millennial/zoomer cunts.

  22. Oh fer fuck’s sake no… Farty Joe addressing Congress…

    “God keep our troops safe…”
    Woah woah woah!! … hit the brakes… WHAT/WHOSE troops might these be Joe… U.S.? … NATO? … proxies?.. subcontracted Blackwater style mercenaries?

    “…GO GET HIM!…”
    Shit, this man is a fucking moron of pan-galactic proportions.

    • He confused Ukraine with Iran today.

      I don’t know who I’m more scared of. The imbecile in the Kremlin or the one in the White House.

      Still, at least Sleepy Joe is in favour of transgender toilets. That’s all that counts.

      • I hear Joe thinks he’s the 46th president of the United States of Armenia.

    • Biden is beyond satire, he’s a total ass-clown. I cringe when a POTUS goes full Rambo in a speech in the build-up to war. And isn’t it a bit retarded to tell you enemy what your plans and strategies are?! Only western leaders do this. Russian and Asian leaders don’t show their hands. This could have been settled peacefully ten years ago, but now it’s a bloodbath in the making thanks to yahoo Yanks and their raging egomania and lust for looting.

  23. In the Telegraph a writer/professor suggests there could be 4 outcomes to this conflict:

    1. Coercive Truce.
    War ends peacefully with Ukraine split down the middle – some regions remaining independent, other bits (Donbas region) re-joining Russia. The problem with that is that Putin could have just invaded that part of the Ukraine right from the very outset but chose instead to go all Full Metal Jacket.

    There’s still a chance such a resolution might happen given the massive sanctions on Russia from all corners of the planet. Thing is though, can Putin be trusted not to do this shit again in the future?

    2. Pyrrhic Victory
    After a stumbling start Russia’s military advantage is slowing grinding the Ukraine down city by city. Putin hasn’t released his full dogs of war yet, but could if he really wanted to given the massive numbers he has in terms of tanks, troops and aircraft. He could kick the living shit out of Ukraine killing hundreds of thousands and forcing surrender. Putin would then win but by Pyrrhic means only as he would still be isolated by the West, and Russia would still face massive economic and social sanctions until he finally stood down (or was simply bumped off!)

    3. A Palace Coup
    An inside job to depose of Putin by force. It has happened before (Nikita Khrushchev and Mikhail Gorbachev) either through peaceful means or otherwise. The Kremlin may not fully support Putin’s actions especially when viewed in the mid to long term and Russia is still isolated and looks forward to the bad old days pre-Glasnost.

    Putin will have considered this and will insulate himself from anyone he doesn’t fully trust. Moreover, little is known of any dissenters in the Kremlin, or any vocal opposition. And if Putin was assassinated who would replace him? A moderate or another mad bad Russian?

    4. Nuclear Escalation.
    Anyone over 40 will know all about the Cold War years, especially during the 70s and 80s under Carter/Reagan and Brezhnev, where the world had to catch its breath numerous times as we feared a nuclear war at any time.

    Putin is sabre-rattling again with his nuclear readiness, probably warning the West to back off or else. No one knows if he is being serious or just willy-waving. He has around 5000 warheads at his disposal but only one is really needed to set the fireworks off and an end-of-the-world scenario kicks in.

    If he is painted into a corner or throws his toys out of the pram at not getting his way, then he is capable of the Final Solution and just blow Ukraine off the face of the Earth. Where we go from there is probably a nuclear war given that the West are committed never to be the first to start such a war.

    If a war does start then the best thing to hope for is that a bomb drops directly above your head. You won’t know about it of course, but being vaporised in 2 seconds is going to be a far better option than being an unlucky survivor (although no doubt old Greta will still moan “How Dare You!” before croaking it)

    There’s probably a 5th or 6th option, but I think the first four are the most pertinent

    • My vote is for scenario 1.

      The two new independent states with Mariupol and region on the Azov sea in Russian control with Crimea.

      A de facto East and Western Ukraine, ensuring it will never get into NATO.

    • Keep the Russians bogged down in Ukraine for a decade or so, then a bullet in the head for the kleptocratic runt, give him a taste of his own medicine.

    • I think 1 & 3 are unlikely (would have done it already/nobody close to the cunt will want to risk their lives/family’s lives/friends’ lives against a small chance of success).

      I fear 2 is where it is most likely going and 4 is where it could end up accidentally (when the catalysts for extinction of all life on the planet will be: fireball, compressive blast, radiation poisoning or nuclear winter – as was said above I think the lucky ones will cop it in a fireball and know nothing much about it).

      We’ve been here before though, with different actors, and that’s where Putin wants us to go back:

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Luftballons

      In the, very small, chance that scenario 3 plays out I think there would be a world wide standing ovation, including in Russia🤞

  25. The Russian ambassador to the UN has given a speech, in which he says that the legitimately elected president of the United States was overthrown.
    He’s referring to Trump of course.
    No wonder he’s pissed off, with all that effort to get him ‘legitimately elected’

    • Talking of ambassadors, the Ukrainian one was given a standing ovation in Parliament today.

      Compare that to the Russian ambassador, whom Truss kicked out of the foreign office last week in less than five minutes.

  26. The sale of Iodine tablets have rocketed in some European countries ever since Putin announced nuclear readiness a couple of days ago.

    30,000 free packets were distributed by pharmacies in Belgium, with other pharmacies throughout western Europe selling more tablets in the last 2 days than they have collectively since 2014.

    Iodine is suppose to protect against low level radiation absorption and reduces the risk of thyroid cancer.

    I take Iodine tablets, as does my wife and many other people who live within 5 miles of Sellafield. But I think in the face of a nuclear holocaust, well I don’t think they’re going to help much.

    That said I doubt it will stop scalpers buying shedloads while they’re cheap and then flog them at a profit should the war escalate and Project Fear kicks in again.

    https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/03/02/ukraine-war-european-pharmacies-face-jump-in-demand-for-iodine-pills-after-putin-s-nuclear

    • Only works against iodine isotopes. The majority of radiation will be plutonium isotopes which last a hell of a long time and you only need to inhale a dust spec sized particle for it to be lethal. Also, the radioactive plumes will be immense. IIRC the Bikini Attol test in 1954 spread radiation over 200 miles and that single bomb was like a single sparkler compared to Russia’s 6,000 “Zenith Big Bangs”.

    • I wouldn’t worry about radiation Technocunt, if you’re that close to Sellafield, you’re gonna catch a big one anyway. I’m not so far away either, caught nicely between the submarine builders at Barrow & Sellafield. Both got to be ‘must-haves’ on the Christmas warhead target list.

  27. A sobering interview with a former NATO commander, sir Richard Shirreff.
    Dont be fooled by the reports of Ukrainians fighting bravely; they have no means of destroying that convoy, and will most likely lose.
    Ibe prepared for a conflict involving NATO and Russia.
    https://youtu.be/-TtPJGxa3EM

    • Tbh I’m not sure Putin actually wants to go any further than Ukraine. That’s if he even survives long enough to begin with.

      • That’s probably been said before, in 2014 when he annexed Crimea.
        He looks ill and demented, and I don’t think he cares about anything now, other than going out with a bang.
        Calling him a cunt doesn’t even begin to explain my feelings for the cunt.

      • There’s a growing number of rumours going about that he’s seriously ill with one disease or another, Covidphobic, on steroids etc.
        Hard to know what the essence of any of this of course, but he does look podgy and pasty faced in photographs.

      • All those babushkas and Labour MP’s who have brought his calendar will feel most disappointed. There is probably a whole Kremlin department dedicated to photoshopping the images.

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    • This is Zelensky playing the piano with his penis-

      HbmZrzN3WFE

      Hysterical eh? I have watched a few of his comedy clips and even though I cannot understand the language I am certain that it is chronically unfunny.

      It just looks terrible.

      • Viktor Yanukovych has big swept back hair. His looks are like he could have been a Soviet polit member of the 50s. In other words he looks old-fashioned. Totally out of date.
        Totally in date is Zelensky. He’s new, funny, forward looking and pro-Western.
        How he must despise the antiquated idea of Ukraine being a part of Russia. Faintly embarrassed they will be about being connected to it at all.

        I am pretty sure one of his comedies called ‘The President’ was a pisstake of Yanukovitch or Putin. Could be wrong.

        I was watching Putin visiting a new Russian Orthodox Church being opened. Crossing himself many times.

        He is just below the average height isnt he? I mean Zelensky.

        Many of the Russian oligarchs are Jewish. I think there are a few Ukranians ones as well.

        I was reading the Jerusalem Post this evening and they were lamenting that all of the Jewish oligarchs, all their philanthropic giving will be lost when their assets are seized. I nearly cried. Nothing about the economic rapie of the country when it the Soviet era collapsed.

        Better say I know Putin has made himself immensely rich as well. And if course the are many non-Jewish oligarchs.

        Does this matter? Zelensky said that being ‘Jewish’ is 20th thing most important about me. Mmm..clever.

        Cut to the chase. I like ‘Mother’ Russia. I like the old world.

        Zelensky comes over (to me) as the modern uppity Jew. Sounds harsh but there is no way else to express it.

        I said earlier that they were playing with fire. Now nobody can live ‘cowed’ by a foreign nation. You cannot live like that. But you do have to be cautious, prudent, careful.

      • May I ask Miles. Why is it you hate Jews so much? It really is remarkable and I’m genuinely interested. Even Zelensky, one of the bravest leaders on the planet now and who has said his Jewish heritage is not an important factor in his make up, who every day shows himself to be a Ukrainian patriot, is described as an “ uppity Jew”.

    • It’s a pity that Uugabooga doesn’t pick up a rifle & help the Ukrainian’s defence, instead of running away to leech off the next unfortunate nation. Fucking cunts aren’t so backward at handling an AK when they’re drugged up & shooting at each other in some African shit-hole.

    • Of course someone could also counter by saying “women and children” is now deemed sexist and offensive.

      Why should blokes have to stay behind and fight? Don’t we believe in equal opportunies?

      I suppose the transformers will be next on the list to moan about thier treatment. Probably whinging about the lack of gender neutral bogs at the border control centres.

      Oh and those trans men who were once women but identify as blokes now – surely you should be staying behind and fighting now that you identify as male? Or have you suddenly re-identified as a woman again?

  30. So, anyone have any suggestions – inside or outside the UK – for possible locations if the conflict goes nuclear?

    • If this thing goes nuclear the whole world is fucked – it will be an extinction event – simple as😳

    • Well no doubt Boris will call on SAGE to help out with the aftermath of a nuclear holocaust.

      They will insist we stay indoors, and only go out wearing industrial standard PPE radiation suits and keep social distancing to a minimum of 6 miles!

      We must also wash our hands, and clap for the NHS. Oh, and no garden parties allowed!

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